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First time Applicants for BTA permits face Deportation --- Says Minister’s Lawyer.

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Philipsburg:--- Persons who submitted an application for the first time between November 24th and December 30th 2010 for a Brooks Tower Permit are now facing deportation if caught by immigrations officers. This is according to the lawyers that represented the Minister of Justice in the court of First Instance on Monday.
The attorneys from Gibson and Associates presented a letter from the Minister of Justice to the court where the Minister gave clarity on the BTA extension process. The Minister in his letter said that based on Article 24 of the constitution anyone can petition government but that does not mean their request will be granted.
Persons who submitted the request for the first time during the extension period and remained on the island for a response has no legal basis neither a guarantee to reside on the island even though they may be in possession of BTA receipt. The BTA procedure from November 24 to December 30th 2010 was only meant for extension of their BTA permits confirmed the Minister in his letter to the court.

The case on Monday involved a national of the Dominican Republic who was deported in January 2011 even though he was in possession of a BTA receipt. The judge asked the Minister to clarify if persons were allowed to apply for the first time during the extension process and if those applicants were allowed to remain on St. Maarten as their applications are being processed. The judge also asked the Minister to provide him with the minutes of parliament and what exactly he told parliament about the BTA extension procedure. The Minister informed the judge that he does not have the minutes of parliament and that it is in parliament's possession.
Gibson and Associates said that it was not possible for anyone to submit an application for a BTA permit during the extension process but persons could in fact petition government based on Article 24 of the constitution. The lawyers did not say if first time applicants could have applied elsewhere during that same period.
Based on what was said in the courts on Monday persons who submitted their applications for the first time last year will not be receiving any permits and if caught by immigration they will be deported. The Minister's lawyers pointed out to the court that the only types of forms that were available during the extension period were "extension forms" which the BTA staff used to process first time applications as well as the extensions.

Attorney at law Denicio Brison pleaded with the court to grant his client a more extensive interpretation of the Minister's letter which he said was not clear enough. The judge will render his verdict on June 27th.

Click here to view the Minister's Response to the Judge's questions.

Last Updated ( Monday, 30 May 2011 22:49 )  
Comments (71)
  • wha this be
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    Well well,
    how can this be happening.
    I thought I was safe......home plate

    Now,,,,this?????

    I did all what I was supposed to do.

    Can you explain the letter in english?

  • English letter?????
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    ;-).

    Yep comprehension of the Law does come with a certain level of education huh?

    Now let us see how immigration will deal with this situation.

  • melissa
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    God Almighty!!! pls help all the BTA permit holders>>>

  • Well
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    boiiiiiii look a set of thiefing goin on.....after they thief dem people money now they saying if they get caught they deportin them?I hope they give those people thei money...plus all the money they spnd getting their documents organised...... well well well boiiiiiiii look things going on in St. Maarten....what a mess!! Seems like a bunch of high school children that dont know what th fawks they doin........

  • Income from Immigrants
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    Ok if we are not going to get a permit, what about the payment of 1,620.00guilders to the island receivers office, will it be refunded, why belittle yourself as a government and rob the under privileged immigrants, most immigrants borrow the money to pay for the permits , and in turn receiving nothing, Please explain, from my analysis, the government did something that is illegal by taking money under false pretence, now, who will prosecute the government, that is wrong and illegal, and its an offence that the prosecutor should look into. It clearly means that the government stole monies from the immigrant to patch up their budget, what a shame, I truly had more respect for the government, but now I just lost it. You are taking money under false pretense. Shame on you, shame. This is how you are showing the Dutch that you are competent enough to run the Country, by tricking immigrants into filling the gap in your budget… what shame.. Pity you all.

  • SXM
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    I don't have a problem with the SXM Law. I would just like to know if I can get my money back. As a matter of fact where will you put all the first time applicants. will u let the whole of Point Blanche Prisoners (who are 99% sxmers) out and put the immigrants there?

  • local
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    Right now the island is over populated with foreigners and we the locals cant get no job.
    This is 10--10-10 country Sxm and we the locals come first.
    We cant go to the Caribbean islands and work,

  • SXM
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    I agree with you totally. I just want the minister to tell us when we are going to get our 1600fls and where to collect it. I know I would not like my own country to be populated like SXM.

  • kel
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    This is all bullshit! This BTA processs was never explained correctly nor was it process good. If someone was not allowed to apply for BTA during the extension period why they did receive a reciept? Would it have been wise to tell those applicants at that tiime that they do not qualify and that it was not possible for them to apply during the extension process? Also, why weren't they told before hand that eventhough they applied and were in pocession of the reciept it did not meant they were legal or had rights to stay on the island? I am confuse aboutt this whole process and it looks bad. I hope the minister did not fool these people. I hope he did not steal their money by presenting false hope to them. If this is so its very sad and maybe our minister needs to step down as he do not know what he is doing with this BTA process.

  • when?
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    When is Parliament going to fire Duncan for this mess?

  • local
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    Look at how many illegals walking around without a job .
    If immigration had to brake down doors like they use to do in the pa** , we will need a tourist ship to send them home.
    I have no problem with foreigners being on the island , they just have to abide with the rules.

  • Minister Liar
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    What a lie. Minister Duncan you good, but watch your back GOD don't like ugly. 10-10-10 you forced yourself inthere, nobody invited you. Janchi Leonard would have done a better job. What am I hearing, this is a slap in Evelyn Hodge's face, because she would not have accepted all application if you didn't say so, now you are changing your tongue. Minister Duncan what you sow you will reap. Isn't it time your a** go to the same cells you send the others too. But in this process you know how many people paid via the legal office of Labour for their Brooks Tower. Another proof of your robbing and incompetent work. Minister Duncan you think you are GOD. Of course the young Donincan girl that you fathered a child with don't need Brooks Tower, because you make sure buy her a house in Santo Domingo so can can stay there.
    I only wish that the man you deported end up living in ur woman house and eating her also because you"r e an old and tired whore (womanizer).

  • Minister Liar
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    What a lie. Minister Duncan you good, but watch your back GOD don't like ugly. 10-10-10 you forced yourself inthere, nobody invited you. Janchi Leonard would have done a better job. What am I hearing, this is a slap in Evelyn Hodge's face, because she would not have accepted all application if you didn't say so, now you are changing your tongue. Minister Duncan what you sow you will reap. Isn't it time your a** go to the same cells you send the others too. But in this process you know how many people paid via the legal office of Labour for their Brooks Tower. Another proof of your robbing and incompetent work. Minister Duncan you think you are GOD. Of course the young Donincan girl that you fathered a child with don't need Brooks Tower, because you make sure buy her a house in Santo Domingo so can can stay there.
    I only wish that the man you deported end up living in ur woman house and eating her also because you"r e an old and tired whore (womanizer).

  • Dexter
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    @Income from Immigrants. That 1600 guilders will be used to help pay your pa**age back home and for the burden you placed on our government

  • ..
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    Very Good!... Send them back to their beautiful home country.

    When you go uninvited into another man's place and start re-modeling and destroying what was before you arrived, it's an illegal act, so expect to be thrown out.

    Get going!.... The 1600 guilders was a processing fee for your application.

    Since some of you know so much of Mr. Roland Duncan's private activities in the Dominican Republic I hereby suggest to him to issue a decree to collect wage tax - for the period of years stayed & worked - from every BTA that overstayed their uninvited welcome. Same as done in the DR at the airport even while leaving.

    And, if they can't pay, or do not want to pay, jail them without feeding them, so their friends and remaining illegal families show up with their daily meals. Same as is done in the DR

  • peace
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    what if you did have a permit already through the regular chanel and then enter the brooks tower .

  • outinthecold
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    No local should be saying he or she can't get any job, that's not through,just say you are not looking for one, even if all foreigners should leave this island now,you will still be without a job because you doesn't want to work, as for the justice minister trust me,
    GOD is going to deal with him, he was put there to uphold the law but don't worry GOD does not drink,and get drunk, and forget things he know that was a rip off but he had love the crowd he use to see in the morning so he call for on extension because the crowd mean money. :sad: :sad:

  • P22
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    But this should have never been an issue in the first place. Because the former minister of justice of the back then Netherlands Antilles stated clearly when the period to apply was and when the period of extension was. How some people going to think that they could apply for the first time during the period that was meant for extension. And the workers that allow this to happen were very irresponsible.

  • ..
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    @ outinthecold

    You came uninvited to St. Maarten to save it from the locals who doesn't want or like to work? ......

    Who do you think was doing all the work before your arrival? ......

    Who are the people working at the immigration department, and in all other government departments?.......

    Failed foreign civil servants, failed foreign soldiers & police officers who also came here to save St. Maarten from the St. Maarteners?

    Again, no one invited you, nor ask you for help. And yes, some of us were so clever, or was it stupid, to allow you to work for less than the minimum wage, and1/3 of going rate on construction only to discover that your knowledge was limited.

    Do you remember how you used to build up the house very fast, even putting on its roof then to discover that you forgot to leave space for windows?

    Then you had to mark and break the same walls with a sledge hammer to create the space... wasting money & material that we hardly, out of pity most times, did not deduct from your pay.

    You came uninvited and are residing & working illegally so instead of always being upfront & in the middle of everything local with your big mouth full of profanity, you should have a**umed a very low profile & try to integrate & adapt to the St. Maarten Friendliness that was when you arrived.

    Now, if you have no work permit, no residence permit just get back on one of the banana boats you came in on, or one of the planes - and this goes also for the drugs sniffing white Americans driving rentals pretending to be short time tourists- GET OUT YOU ARE NOT WANTED nor NEEDED

  • local
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    Do you remember how you used to build up the house very fast, even putting on its roof then to discover that you forgot to leave space for windows?


    Then you had to mark and break the same walls with a sledge hammer to create the space... wasting money & material that we hardly, out of pity most times, did not deduct from your pay.

    WELL SAID , WHAT ABOUT THOSE CONTRACTORS WHO BUILD PEOPLE HOMES CROOKED AND RIP THEM OFF LEAVING THEM WITH A HUGE MORTGAGE AT THE BANK. AND STILL CANT LIVE IN THEIR HOMES.

  • The Godfather
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    Just as I expected! People while I believe the minister of Justice is incompetent you can't put all the blame of this situation on him! This is why locals have issues with immigrants, you guys expect us to roll out a magic carpet to get you what is required. I can't think of any country that will bend the rules to please immigrants. Do you think the USA will bend the rules for you?

    This is a great learning lesson for BTA persons, when we had our September elections many of you were waving and dancing with UP, DP and NA tee shirts and couldn't even cast a vote! The blame my friends should be placed on the government in control. Don't you know that the parties you were waving flags for can fire the Minister of Justice? I guess you don't know our laws, that is the first thing you should inquire about before you apply for any permit. And the law was on the books prior to Roland Duncan. It was on the books during the previous minister.

    I can't blame the law for upholding what is and was on the books. Sorry mu friends when you in Rome you must accept the law. If you can not comply then I suggest packing your bags. I do agree that a portion of your application fee should be returned. But how do we know if those receipts are fakes or authentic? So unfortunately you suffer for the blasted crooks who thought sxm people were dam fools! Now everyone gets sent home, sorry but one spoiled it for all. Welcome to democracy!

  • local
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    THEY CAN;T GET NO MONEY BACK, GOVERNMENT HAVE TO PAY THE MEDICAL CENTER FOR THE HUGE DEBT THAT THE ILLEGALS CREATED WITHOUT PAY, WHERE OUR DOCTORS NEVER TURN THEM BACK.

  • Did you pay taxes?
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    Government wake up and do your homework. Do not give them nothing back......Take the Nafl 1600 and send it to the Tax Department, to pay for the tax-free years that these illigals where enjoying on our island. We call that back taxes.

    They (illigals) where and still are getting away with everything in the law books. If they have proof that they where paying taxes, then these persons should be given their monies back on their way out from St Maarten.

    Send them back and give us jobs to feed our children.

    What government have to do is send all corrupt civil servants home that are making it possible for these illigals to live and work on St Maarten.

  • dragon
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    if the extension period was only for extension of expired BTA papers, the how is it that first time applications were accepted. those people working in that departments should be ashamed for accepting those applications. is shows incompetence .

  • A REAL ST.MAARTENER
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    my response is to the senceless person with te name ..im pretty sure you are a sxmer im one also my paretns and all my generation was born here and i want to tell you is people like you that those give sxm people a bad name wha duncan did was wrong if he knew from the start that these people was not going to get their legal status here he should of never took teir money this is call FRAUD and STEALING and this deserve JAIL TIME as mess up this may sound but it people like you and duncan that turning the beautiful island into a corrupted island his a** deserve to be locked up but watch nothing there is a god and there is also this woman with four legs name KARMA so he will see it

  • Well
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    SORRY BUT that was expected cause all St. Marteen good for is thiefing....govenment officias thiefing, civil servants thiefing, bank officials thiefing....

    allu just a BUNCH OF THIEVES

    is not their fault as this is part of their culture....if I was part of dat Brooks Tower Scam...i wud not fawking leave here without my fawking money....boooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii what I wud do would go down in history..... I do fawking care if I go jail..it wud be a day for st maarten to remember that they shud neva steal from me.......

    ST MAARETNER IS SCAM ARTIST COUNTRY ALLU too damn hungry and greedy

    You guys can hate the forigners all you like but that fact remains that they doing better than allu a**.....look at them haitians, boiiii i love these people..they save all their money but you guys just swander yours...fancy car,mag rims and YOU HUNGRY....DUMB a*****s

    They will deport them but they will not be hungry......while you will continue to starve when they gone

  • D
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    So much uglyness in st. maarten, words of hate, threats, and more. Wrong is wrong, who ever took those people money knowing that the extension was only for extensions are the ones to blame. They will say the minister knew about it, and maybe he did, and if that is so then he too is wrong. But i beg to differ because persons went to jail for corruption of the BTA extension. I think once it was discoverd that they were accepting first time applicants it should have stoppped immediately and return all the people that paid for the first time their monies back and then continue with the BTA as was suppose to be for BTA holders to extend their permits. I must say thank God a stamp was stolen otherwise it might have been worst then it is now.

  • Please get your facts straight
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    Fact 1: all BTA applicants were ILLEGAL on SXM as they failed to register themselves before the BTA process was iniated.

    Fact 2: the illegal alien had a choice: either register via BTA or remain ILLEGAL (with the risk of immediate deportation if caught)

    Fact 3: if the illegal chose to register through the BTA process: yes a fee had to be paid no matter the outcome (granting or denying a BTA permit).

    Fact 4: EVERYWHERE in the world there are FEES a**ociated with the application proces for a work/residence/visa.

    It is time to rid the island of the low cla** immigrants that only come to take but forget to give. We need EDUCATED foreigners, if any. Just like what Holland is doing right now: if you don't have AT LEAST a Tertiary degree, you are only allowed entry into the country as a Student!

  • Shooz
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    Let's forget the whole BTA and send back every ILLEGAL resident to their home country.

    All ILLEGAL RESIDENTS are complaining while they were BREAKING THE LAW in the first place.

    Nothing against foreigners, but when you now that you do not have the required papers.....=> do not come to SXM.

  • Well
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    stupesssssssssssss.......jump high jump low bend down and touch your toe..... a Thief is a Thief

    Put it which ever way allu want........ allu a BUNCH of THIEVESSSSSS and then coming up with excuses saying that the 1600 Naf was a processing Fee.....Processing fee for what? What FAWK first time applicants FEE you talkin bout...You dumb or what? You did not understand that BTA 2 was only for persons who had gotten the first BTA?

    St. Maarten wAs a little piece of beaten up Rock that dem foreigners fix up for uR lazy a**es and after they fix it...they sell their land to buy Flour

    St.Maarteners GET OUT OF ST MAARTEN!!!!
    you do not deserve to live here..Yes I teLling you to get out of there cause.....all you doing is sittng on your a**es and complaining.....what are you doing for the economy?? Not a Fawk...so GET OUT!!!!!

  • LOL
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    Country SXM...More like Micky Mouse Club

  • ?????
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    SXM was paradise where one lived in peace and tranquility.
    SXM was beautiful. Every one respecting each other and caring for each other.

    We had decent foreigners who came here with good intention. Loving our paradise and investing in it.

    Untill you foreigners from the nearby islands started to come in, hungry as you came, abandoning family, children, husbands, wifes, to earn a living here in our sweet sxm.

    If your island was so good and sxm a little piece of beaten rock as stated above, why the hell you came here and did not stay in your own country and continued developing it?

    No, you came here because here everything was progressing and blooming.
    SXM people was to good at heart to share with their neighbouring island.
    You all started to come in by the thousands. And what did you all do? destroy our little piece of paradise. Thas what you all did.
    You came over like raving dogs, and later to send for more of your families.
    SXM was beautiful, now it looks ugly because of all you caribbean foreigners.

    If your country is so much better tha sxm, believe u me, we would rather see you leaving than staying. Be free to leave.
    Please star packing. Adieu, bon voyage...Farewell and have s safe trip back home.
    And don't forget, do not look back.

  • Birdy_1964
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    It's a shame rubbing poor sisters and brothers, that money will do us no good, that money is curse, sxm is a blessed place. please let the curse fall not on sxm, but on you and your generation to come. listen to yourself. you don't love your people . I am not saying sxm should let the world come in. but don't take money from poor people. These people have blood just like you. They have knees to pray, relax, eat chicken leg & johnny cake and be merry, is only for a shot time. Jehovah god don't sleep.

  • ..
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    Well
    May 31, 2011
    72.252.9.52

    Well said: Smartin was a little beaten up rock. But it had friendly happy & working people ( some with 2 jobs )who trusted each other to the point that they slept day & night with our door and windows unlocked (=open). They worked 2 jobs until you arrived to take over one and asking less than minimum wage for a 60 hours work week.



    That was until you fled your also undeveloped island to avoid starving to death, but to build up another man's country.

    Now that you know that Smartiners are only thieves, pack up and get out of the people's country where you are not wanted. Go back and build up your birth island/country. Take your PC along with you and hope they are so far that there is an Internet Provider to hook you up so you could continue reading SMN-NEWS.

    And, notice when you get back home - in your own country - that your country men/women who do not want to work, who prefer to steal other people stuff and engage in all sorts of wickedness DO NOT COMPLAIN about not being able to find work.

    So it is with Little S'martin youngsters. They studied, all together some 25 years in order to get the skills & degrees needed in order to return home to Smartin to a**ist with building up their country, not yours, but their own. Only to hear that they are either overqualified & have no work ethics, that they are lazy & do not want to work. So, what do you call studying liming or working?

    Please explain how come, when they leave their island, returning to the country where they studied, the USA & the Netherlands, they are never told that they are overqualified, have no work ethics, and are lazy?

  • sad
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    this is sooo wrong so imagine the ppl who took all these ppl money they walking free enjoying others money and they have their jobs while these innocent who have their first time papers going to get deported with an valid paper, SO WHAT THE GOV WILL DO WITH ALL THE NEW COMERS THAT DONT EVEN HAVE PAPER AND WORKING AND LIVING ON THE ISLAND NOOOOOOOOO PAPERS JUST COME IN THE ISLAND AS OF 2011 AND LIVING HERE .

  • How typical
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    Minister Duncan allows his department to take money off people and it doesn't appear from this story or comments that he seems willing to give it back.

    1. Either the workers at the BTA office are basically frauds and crooks.

    2. Minister Duncan failed to inform the department and it's head about the fact that this period was NOT for new BTA applications, in other words he screwed up, or someone in his offices did.

    Will he be held accountable in any way what so ever for this? Nah, one thing i"ve learned in 23 years here is that no politician or honcho like Duncan EVER gets held accountable for what they do.

    SXM people have been getting bent over and screwed by their own leaders greed and incompetence since I can remember. Stop blaming foreigners for all the island's problems, there is a government, demand it governs competently and get rid of the mafia bosses and slimeballs,(ie most of them) next change you get to vote.

    Hady

  • ORAL DECREE
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    This is what happens when arrogance leads to the making of "ORAL DECREES". This minister gave the impression that he wanted the help the poor immigrant. All he did was make them waste their hard earned money so that they could be not only be expelled, but be expelled with less money than they had before the "ORAL DECREE" was made.

  • TJ
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    They should of never allowed that BTA shit on st maarten in the first place!

  • YES!!!!!!!
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    BYE BYe BHHHHHYYYYYYEEEEE ADIOSSSSSSSSS BON VOYAGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE DONT COME BACK THROUGH THE BACK DOOR LIKE YOU ACCUSTOMED TO - BYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P

  • local concerned
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    What is this a JOKE!!! Send Off All The Foreign Ppl home i wonder how sxm will survive. Sonesta, Marshall/Thrifty/Caribben Auto/Paradise/Hertz/, Diamond International, The Entire Front Street and Back Street. All The Arabs, Indians, Hatians, Guyanese, Americans, Etc. Ppl without foreigners no country can prosper...Look at the USA...Millions of illegals and even some of the locals here go there and work and overstay and also vie to get their green card. Think before u all speak. Locals dont want cleaner job, septic cleaning jobs, street cleaning jobs...lots of things local dont wanna do but remember ur pension will be based on the same foreigners taxes they pay. Think about the little factors that helps to build sxm than break it. i was robbed by 2 locals boys on scooters one day and u say we destroying sxm....dont be fools and blind sighted ok. Have a great Day

  • Right ?
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    No disrespect to foreigners but,

    If we treat all you foreigners and immigrants so bad, why still want to stay here and fight with us ?
    Your own country that bad then ?
    if you really luvvvv sxm, and are so concerned that if you leave there will be no more sxm, why the hell don't you work for nothing then ?
    Aha, all the talk means nothing, it is because the money you can get here and the crap you can do and get away with, far outweighs the 'inconvenience'. Right ?
    So hush up and take what you get, or right, get the hell outta here....

  • wow
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    good day if i'm not mistaken correct me if i'm wrong why do things under false pretense, it was written in the DAILY HERALD that first time applicants can apply to the BTA . Why treat people like that it's best u had given people time like 5 months to leave your beautiful country instead of fooling us .believe me GOD the creator knows and see everything ,another country will rise just like & even better than sxm ,can't u see sxm is changing so many un solved crimes murders like it's a game of chess.playing .illegals are all over the developed world stop blaming them for every bad situation in ur country instead you are the ones who sold out everything to the asians, you all only consider the carribean people illegals but at least they spend the $$$ they make here the others save it up and ship it to their country and change the name of their shops just so they won't pay taxes next day it's another family member running the same store .. RIGHT IS RIGHT don't treat people like dogs remember their is a supreme being named GOD.. have a nice day..

  • Anna Nelson
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    what about people who had papers through the regular process and went to renew through the BTA process .will they be deported too?these people have their entire family here since2000,their kids are in schools.please explain the faiths if these people.thank you.

  • @ Anna
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    why in the world if you had papers through the regular process would you go thru the Brooks tower ? that dont make no sense ! brooks tower was for first time applicants who was residing illegally. So somebody fool you or you tryin to fool we.

  • ...
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    Enough is enough.
    Stop all the talk.
    The time to come has gone, the time to go back has come.
    Pack and leave.
    What is wrong with going back home ?
    Bless your own country with your love, hard work and sacrifice and stop forcing that on us St. Maarten people, we do not want it anymore.
    Bon voyage, viaja con dios.

  • ..
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    @ local concerned
    May 31, 2011
    190.102.4.66

    There are many young skilled locals who returned to their birthplace and could not find employment, so they left their birthplace, and within short they found employment in the USA and/or the Netherlands.

    What did you expect them to do, become garbage collectors, maids, septic pump truck drivers with their bachelors & master degrees?

    There are also unskilled locals willing and able to work, but are not willing to be exploited by having to work overtime hours for the same less than minimum fixed monthly wage. A wage that is mostly payed 7 to 10 days into the new month.

    If you are an illegal foreigner - get the hell out before you are caught, locked up, and then deported.

    Holland does it, Curacao does it, Aruba does it. So why must Country Sint Maarten accept & legalize people - this goes also for the drug sniffing & dealing white Americans driving around in rentals pretending to be tourists - who do not contribute anything positive to country S'martin?

    The first armed robberies were committed by foreigners on Sang's Supermarket. Then they hit the Mullet Bay branch of Chase Manhatten bank. When they tried a second time it was again foreigners. The first major drug bust was also at Mullet Bay conducted by the reinforced S'martin police with police officers from Curacao & the French side Gendarmerie. Those detained and/or killed? All Foreigners!

    Was it also white foreigners who opened up a bar at the head of town - Front Street - promoting fagots competitions & lifestyle?

    It was a local governor that ordered the police to close it down, arrest & deport all the illegal fagots. There are 2 or 3 black locals who joined the club walking around town.

  • EDUCATION
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    To all educated and non educated please note that the judge is to render his verdict on June 27th! Lawyers each have their own interpretation of the civil code. However it is the obligation the Judge to pronounce judgment . Only when jurisprudence has been establish can one conclude that e.g. persons will be deported on the basis of the so called minister his version of the story or not.
    Up until then PLEASE await the ruling of the judge!!!!!!
    No time for panic here!!!!!!!!!

  • human
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    Good day to all of you,
    Firts of all im very gratefull to sxm for everything i have acomplish here im not saying that in my country couldnt have done it but there's some of us that came here for a reason or no reason at all but just to make money but that doesn't say we should all be treated like trash just as you local go to holland, usa,canada or any other country just to get better education,stability, health, we have the right to do it too with this im no saying that all the inmigrant that come are saint of course there are a lot of bad apple among us just like thers are a lot among all the sxmners . we should all think as human beings and feel any pain any worries as equal becaue not now maybe not in the next 3 years but soon and bealive soon you will be in our shoes and dont forget some of us did help you sxmners reach where you are right now , and plea**sssse do not say we the inmigrant are taking your job because you should be ashame of saying that we are simply taking advantage of an oportunity that some of you just trow it away or any of sxmners tell me im wrong, if this is the friendly island and a paradise how could it be so much crime and so much corruption its just because you let it happen and you supported it dont blame us you are what you are and you will always be no matter who come who leave from any country or any place in the world you let your country be how it is and that doesnt mean you let it happen because you let a bunch of inmigrant come its just for the fact that some of you see inmigrant as the bad thing when you should be looking at the mirror and judging yourself, this what is happening right now is just soooooooo wrong and so disrespecfull for humanity that to be honest in some of our country just or the simply fact of mention it will be a caos on the street, a simply examle look what happens in PELICAN RESORT there was a lot of inmigrant as there were a lot of locals too now compare the situation and tell me what you see private company trowing ppl on the street like animals but the ppl stood up for their rights. this is just the same but with a hugeeeee amount of ppl that stop feeding their babies to pay for a hope turning out to be a scam what if the ppl stand up for their right now and start claiming what they took its not only about the money the HOPE your ripping off from them and bealive you could treat ppl as animals one day one week 10 years if you want but sooner or later they will eat you and you as locals or a sxmners or better yet as a citizen of your now so call country have a chance to stop this injustice, this fraud because deep down your really are a great country and you are great ppl you just have to act right.


    thanks.
    hope everyting gets right



    Let's pray

  • god help sxm
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    I knew something was wrong i spend all these money. They called me twice in the police station my pappers telling me it ready they never give it me!!!!

  • God does not like Ugly!!!!
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    This is not Fair......!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give the people them back their money atleast!!!!! They worked hard for it!!!!....

  • Well
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    talk all the talk you want bout them foreigners...but most of them more educated than u locals...dont even talk about ur schoos...
    Some foreign teacher decided to offer internationaly recognized dipomas here...she must be an a** to set this up here....eave them with their tkl, pbl shit
    No matter what allu do THE FACT REMAINS THAT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ILLEGALS HERE ON ST MAARTEN

    ST MARTENERS THIEVESSSSSSSSSSSSSS Go work hard for your own money and STOP THIEFING OTHER PEOPLE MONEY .GO FIND YOUR OWN..AND selling johnny cake and chcken wll not cut it

    St. Maarten is not the frienly island but the SCAM ISLAND

    IT'S in their nature to thief. The too FAWKING LAZY

    Fawking tourism alone allu got if dat done allu fawk
    And check this out..people who come from other caribbean isands are NEVER HUNGRY IN THEIR HOME LAND...

    The only reason I came here was the nite life that the foreigners provide daz it....wha de fawk St. Maarten have like dah..strupesssssssssssssss.....I work for foreigners not St. Maarteners...them lazy a**es aint got shit.....and they MORE HUNGRY THAN THEM FOREIGNERS...We saving all our money them foreigner give us when we work for them and sendin it a** home....so take it to the bank and fawk it!! lolzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • Well
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    FOREIGNERS TOO SOFT MAN.....they thief allu money and you not doing anyting about it? boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii allu lucky I wasnt part of ths BTA SCAM cause I swear to GOD...Holland wud have to come with their troops....because.......daz all I got to say

  • outinthecold
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    All I want to tell those of you that are saying send them home,donrt be too quick to re joyce,just remember ,any country goes on its own encounter hard times,especially your own currency, just wait you all might find you self running out of sxm to look for a better way of life, but remember with the same measure that you measure you will be measure,do unto others the same you would love them do unto you, the day will come sxm the day will come.

  • STUPIDNESS
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    First of all, all those who saying that foreigners destroy ur country should visit Pointe Blanche and find out if majority of the prisoners are'nt from here. second do not say because of the foreigners ur unable to get jobs because most of u guys r just lazy and want to drive around in big jeeps and live in big homes. if all the foregners where sent home there would'nt be no front r backstreet stores casue ALL of them r own by foreigners, the streets would not be clean because no locals want to do the dirty job and there would be new buildings going up everyday because no locals wanna work in the hot sun. as far as i'm concern these young generation r uneducated and even if they do go to school they then go to holland and turn worthless. so u then need foreigners to do
    the jobs u guys fail to do. as far as i'm concern most people would be proud to go back home, especially me to my BEAUTIFUL island JAMAICA because st. maarten is nowhere near to compare to JAMAICA except for the currency difference and if Jamaica used US just me all Jamaicans would be gone . and last but not least to the minister yes he is a theif cause i think he was perfectly aware of the conditions but they wanted their budgets to be fixed for 10-10-10 so they con the people but i leave it ALL in God's hands.

  • Rachy
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    Its truly amazing the whole Labor situation. If Duncan didnt know that 300 to 500 people, some sleeping at the BTA building for days to get their paper work in order, that first time applicant were being excepted and paid for, then jesus christ, whats he there for. It is truly unfair whats being done because his own department had their own money collection going on , on his watch. We are talking about people who work, created families here, pay their taxes, etc etc...Yes we are over populated, but is it their fault.??? Who let them in??Now that the SH*T hit the fan, you want to clean up everything all at once. It took years to get to where we are now. Somewone made a good point earlier on, when or if they start picking people up, is there a plane waiting at the airport to fly them home? Is there another holding area thats humane enough to hold on avergae 50 to 60 people per day? Thats what Mr. Duncan lacks, planning? Where are these so called eligal people going to sleep while awaiting their transfer home? By you Mr. Duncan. Start by changing SVB laws on calling in sick every 2 days if someone groans, start by changing the attitudes of our locals that they shouldnt take their jobs for granted, because there is always a replacement, and most likely its an ilegal who has a family to feed back home and knows what showing up for work ONTIME means and not calling in sick because he feels he will get paid for it because SVB gave him 2 days off for sneezing. Duncan is just as guilty and should resign as the rest of the staff at the BTA. Were they all being led blindly? Come on, its as plain as day....trying to cover your A"SS with this one wont work...

  • Peter Gunn
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    The former governor had given TWO amnesties before BTA....How many amnesties will we give?

    No education and no money. Send the back to fix the countries they economically destroyed.

  • NATURES BOUNTY
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    well well after reading some of the commens here it"s rather disturbing.all the run aliens outta town?to not know your history is to fail and sxm is doomed to fail ,becareful what you guys wish for remember no one man is an island no man stands alone.THANK GOD FOR ALL THE ALIENS FORIEGNER WHO CAME TO YOUR SHORE TO TEACH YOU GUYS HOW PEOPLE LIVED , WHEN WE CAME YOUR HOUSES WERE MADE OF CARDBOARD WE SHOWED YOU HOW LIFE WAS YOUR FRIKING SKIN WAS LIKE RAISEN IN THE SUN, YOUR ENGLISH WAS HORRIBLE, WE BROUGHT CHANGE ,SO NOW YOU GUYS KNOW BETTER WE WILL GO HOME WE OPENED YOUR EYES UNGRATEFUL PEOPLE,STILL YOUR MEN CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF DE SWEET FOREIGN WOMAN WHO LOVE TO CLEAN THEIR HOUSES N COOK FRESH FOOD,GIVE THEM PRETTY BABIES. WE HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO BACK WHERE DO YOU HAVE?

  • hmmm....
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    Naf 1620 X 200 immigrants = Naf 324.000
    X 2000 immigrants = Naf 3.240.000
    I wonder if that is the way the finance minister was able to balance the budget. If so, then his father in law gave him a good hand over the backs of the immigrants. I'm just saying, hmmmm...

  • A REAL ST.MAARTENER
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    @ .. i wish i knew who you be that all i have to say you running your mouth a lil to F.... much your danm racis a** wen they send all the haitians, jamaicans dominicans etc home are you going to be one of the person that is going to be cleaning the road your danm ungreatful a** the illegals are human jus like you. your fool you should just stop commenting cause you just making yourselv look like wat you really be a DANMM IDIOT.and yes im a ST.MAARTENER but that doesn mean i have to be talking like you fools who socalled from here just making sxm people look bad DUNCAN IS FREAKING THIEF and he need to be replacing one of the 19 thieves that they want to release

  • yes
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    If you read the answer to the judge he said those who apply for the first when it was the extension period. People have to learn to read all find prints. Yes the were wrong to take the money if the know it was not possible for them to get the grace period.

    Yes if you are not working you need to go home. Were I live it have a of men sitting all day drinking beer from the time I wake up utill I go to sleep and they still there I want to know if they dont work.

  • Dotorhans
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    There were 3 categories listed to take part in the BTA program.
    So ignorance of the law is no excuse. The first one was for persons that could prove they were on the island 2000 and beyond. The 2nd, was for those 2005 and employed. The responsibility was for the employers, suckers and exploiters, to make right for their employees, this was never done. Why haven't you taken it out on those persons for deceiving you? The third category was for those coming to the island from 2007. Those were advised to leave the island. So if some one deposited BTA first time papers during the month November to December 2010, has to be an a**hole. The stipulations has been clearly written, and deposited for your cosumption. I have no qualms with foreigners residing or working on this island as long as they respect the island and it's people. I have worked in a foreign country before sxm had anything. I had the priviledge to work and even defended foreigners in a foreign island from the islands natives. I'm a sxm, and have many a foreign friends that earnestly adheres to the laws, however in all instances there will be those that are disrespectfull. Before writing bullshit one should acquint one self with the facts at hand, or seek clarity. Punish those that warrants it, reward those that merits it. It is so sad to see us as Niggerines devour each other while we let the misfits , the suckers and the exploiters get away free. why not break the strangle hold of the slave importation that is ruining this island? Stop beating down your own and channel the energy towards those that continue to exploit us all.

  • criminal island
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    There is a reason SXM is going down. Tourism is down don't believe the gov because the #'s are wrong. Most places start to starve in April and just hang on barly til next season. The tourists see what is happening, they hear it from the staff, they see the infastructure, sewage on the side of the road, hugh costs for food, gebe, SXM doesn't put money back into the Island, the Island isn't promoted. They need better standards for employees, foreign or not.The island wouldn't be able to operate without foreigers. The corruption starts from the top levels of goverment and flows down from there. Employers that con't to pay less than min eage should be held accountable, It is a huge mess. The crime is increasing, corruption is increasing, all the other islands are prospering, while sxm is going down

  • Captain Zen
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    The money paid will be used for the tickets home, that's how simple it is. 1600 fl is just enough for transport to Juliana and out from here. Why all the fuss? And why come here in the first place? Nobody invited these immigrants, and they overstayed their welcome, ciao, happy landings and be done with it. The world is bigger than sxm alone...

  • proud mama
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    When you'll are talking about foriegners are destroying sxm. when you look at all the educated teachers they are from our english island. I wonder why because sxm teachers not educated cannot speak proper english. Look at the Mac school and St. Dominic carribean teacher make them look dam good. Also, if there are no tourist in sxm the island is doom. Look at the head of goverment they are the most corupted on the island of sxm..because everyone is related and that is why crimes are not being solved. The only thing i can recall sxm have is sandflies and mosquitos. Instead, of focusing on the negative about foreigners think about all the good things they have done....LAST BUT NOT LEAST LOOK AT ALL THE HOAR HOUSES SXM HAVE NOT ONE OUT REACH PROGRAM FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO GO TO...

  • criminal island
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    Talk about corrupt, the goverment is responsible for the teachers on the Island, right. Acadamy high school hasn't had a english teacher for almost 2 months. The students are getting deprived of a proper education. There isn't a day that goes by where the students don't have a cla** or two or three even four or five cla**es canceled a day with no sub teachers to take charge no administration that cares, you the goverment is depriving the kids of proper education. That is another reason why there is so much termoil on the Island. The kids that go to school see that the teachers don't care so since they spend one-third of there life in school and see that teachers don't care it is in the students system not to care. Teachers are susposed to lead by example, as is the goverment.So you see it starts from the top and trickles down...it is a shame. The people in charge can really and it appears that they only are concerned about themselves, while they ship there own kids off island for good education. Sad real sad...

  • ..
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    @ A REAL ST.MAARTENER
    May 31, 2011

    @ .. i wish i knew who you be that all i have to say.....

    Correct English: I wish I knew who you ARE.
    That all I have to say....( and then you continue rambling a bunch of nonsense about racist & racism )

    You have internet, well if you know how to Google, then google "What is a racist?".
    Google also: What me be, a intelligent fool?

  • ..
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    That is all I have to say.

  • well well
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    Maria now you see how much people just love you. Karma girl Karmaaaaa mmmmmmmmmmmmm

  • dragon
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    sxm, the land of whore houses, immigration officers that let in people without papers, for favors, and what did the dutch minister called theo lately? a little what? hmmmm. need i go on? sxm is full of corruption and you say foreigners destroying sxm? please look in the mirror and stop blaming others. your own people sell out everything to foreigners, then you say foreigners come here and take everything and locals can't get anything. how come some one can come open a business and bring in mother, father, brothers, sisters, and all their families to work in that business? who do you think sign papers for all of them? then you the locals can't get jobs. blame you own damn greedy elected officials.

  • ...
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    Maria,
    Many times, when the St. Martiners complained, politicians would say, that this is this is the price for 'progress'.
    Well, welcome to the club and simply get accustomed to politicians now becoming the target to pay the price of having sold out our country.
    You will not be the last politician to be made to pay the price of what your ordered.
    We St. Martiners have been paying that price for decades now.

  • ..
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    Brussels has concerns about tougher Dutch immigration policy

    Wednesday 25 May 2011

    The European Union is ‘concerned’ about Dutch plans to amend the country’s immigration and asylum rules, EU commissioner Cecilia Malmström told the NRC in an interview on Tuesday.

    Malmström would not go into details but did say: ‘We have already expressed some concern and are now in dialogue with the Netherlands.’

    Current rules already give enough room to tackle integration problems, up to a certain limit, she told the paper.

    Consquences

    ‘You have to look at the consequences if you change the rules… For example, family reunification is meant to make people who live legally in your country feel better,’ the commissioner is quoted as saying.

    The Netherlands is the only country she has heard saying the rules on family reunification need changing. ‘I know the Netherlands thinks it important but I do not hear it from other countries,’ she said.

    Age limit

    Under Dutch rules, men or women wishing to bring in a foreign partner must earn at least 120% of the official minimum wage. Their partner must pa** a language and integration test in their country of origin and be at least 21 years old. The new government wants to increase that to 24.

    In February, the Council of Europe’s human rights commissioner criticised Dutch family reunification policy for focusing on ‘restricting and reducing the number’.

    The measures are a concession by the minority government to the anti-Islam PVV which wants a 50% reduction in non-western immigration.
    © DutchNews.nl

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