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French Civil Servants Claiming Discrimination --- Says Unqualified Foreigners are given Preference.

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Marigot: --- The UTCG, CTG, and UTC unions are seeking to represent a number of local civil servants that are being pushed aside even though they are fully qualified to hold top positions in the Collectivity of St. Martin. Unionist Janine Arnel told SMN News in exclusive interview on Thursday that there are a number of local St. Martiners that has diplomas but they are not given the opportunity to serve their country. Persons like Alex Richards, Philippe Stephen, Rodrique Angely, Murielle Benissa and Henoc Patrick are only some of the persons that were named. Arnel said over the years they are hearing that there are no qualified locals on the island to take up major positions but there are at three persons who are currently being pushed aside while Guadeloupians were brought in and given huge salaries and benefits even though they do not possess the necessary diplomas for the jobs they are holding. Right now St. Martiners are less fortunate in their own country Arnel said.
Arnel who holds a masters degree said she received a sanction on Thursday when she was informed that she was going to be taking up a new position over the dispensaries, while she has been the acting director of the social services for the past two years without a director. Arnel has served 25 years as a social worker with the General Council and she also holds a degree in management of sanitary and social affairs.(BAC+5 that is equivalent to a Masters Degree). Arnel said she had quite some challenges when she began setting up the social services on St. Martin because those in charge wanted things to be done outside of the law as if the island was part of a banana republic, something she is totally against.
Arnel said one of the DGA Regine Ramassamy recently went back to her island after she was recalled by the General Council. She said that position will now be held by the DGS Pascal Avern. Avern she said will be holding two positions in the COM, while there are qualified locals sitting on the side line.
Arnel said she was informed in a meeting that the COM is reorganizing the services and that they are making changes whereby she will be removed from her position. Arnel said she was an acting director now she is given a position as charge de mission which does not entail a promotion with salaries or benefit neither does it correspond to her qualifications. She said according to the law she is supposed to be promoted after three years of service but that has not happened. Arnel said she was made to understand that another outsider would be taking up her position even though that person does not have the necessary qualification to hold such a position. Arnel said another top position in the social services is also held by Guyanaise person who also is not qualified yet they are earning huge salaries with house and car benefits.
Arnel named a number of persons who were brought in by the elected officials of the Union pour les Progres and the island she said went backwards by 10 years. She said there is one person who has more qualifications than the DGS and he is pushed aside. This person she said is waiting for the past four months and his expertise is not being used. Arnel said she felt that the people of St. Martin are being insulted with their educational achievements. Arnel named a number of persons who are currently holding the same position and are being paid for not doing anything that would benefit the island or its people. She said even though the elected officials know that certain persons are not qualified neither are they performing the duties they are paid to do, their contracts and benefits are being renewed at the expense of the people.
Arnel said three unions are now gearing up to take actions against the COM. She said the unions met with the COM and they have sent a number of letters regarding the labour abuse against the civil servants. Arnel said one of the reasons she has chosen to speak out is to make sure the population is aware of the current state of affairs of their country. Arnel said the St. Martin people should be first in their country and she cannot continue to accept the mediocrity that is currently being displayed by the elected officials. The French civil servants intend to join the national strike which is scheduled to take place on September 7th regarding the pensionable age while they would be preparing to take action against the injustice that are meted out against the locals.
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Vote for CPA not DP/UP/NA
September, 02, 2010, 17:48
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Janine Arnel should have realized long time ago, that St. Martin people should come first in their country and not wait until she personally is finally affected.
Still, better late than never.
ALL St. Martiners should band together behind that cause, because sooner or later, we all will be wiped out, if we don't.

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TOGETHER
September, 02, 2010, 19:38
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The reason that this can happen? SAINT MARTIN people are not together. Janine ARNEL for one when she was social worker treat Saint Martin people like dog, so what she talking for. When she give you an appointment and you come, she is on the her phone for hours and her colleagues is afriad top tell her that her appointment is there. I know because I had an appointment with her in french quarter and we cla*s. She felt like she was untouchable.

So all what happening now, is what we buy. So we have to wear it

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St martin
September, 03, 2010, 02:05
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Je suis tout à fait d'accord pour une fois restons de bon St Martinois et soyons unis. Car notre petit St Martin ne nous appartient plus!

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st-martiners first
September, 03, 2010, 04:06
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this is not about one person, but all st-martiners must be concern. these people are benefiting things that they will not benefit in guadeloupe. as they get here they buy BMW and still using the collectivity vehicules. have house with pool which they don't have in guadeloupe. so let that person know it is not about janine. but she was brave enough to speak out lol

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boiling over
September, 03, 2010, 04:18
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thank you mrs st martiner you said it all

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Soualigan
September, 03, 2010, 04:41
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This problem is not only happening on French SXM, but also is rampant on Dutch SXM as well. Especially in Government where it is near impossible for a new Sxm employee to get a managemnet job. All preference goes to the white applicant because they "know it all". Not only that, but when a local is appointed, the salary difference is thousands less than what they would offer the european for the same job. This mind you doesn't include the rent that is paid and the car that is given to drive.

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good for them
September, 03, 2010, 05:33
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its about time that someone finally said something, although that has been my song for god knows how long. SXM is going down the drain fast. its time for us to build it back up. its so sad that the saint martiners have last preference when applying for a job. once they see a guadeloupeen or france man, they turn ignorant to us locals. its no longer about your level of education or how many diplomas you have, ITS ALL ABOUT WHO YOU KNOW AND WHO KNOWS YOU in sxm. so i have a BAC in my hand but don't know ppl and tom who never even get the brevet des colleges but who knows dick, harry, peter and paul get the job. PEOPLE LET'S WAKE UP THIS HAPPENING LONG TIME. TIME TO MAKE A CHANGE.

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Believe me
September, 03, 2010, 05:52
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We have been talking and talking for years.
It's either we decide to DO something about it, or just accept the way it is.
Let's ask ourselves and each other what we CAN do, and DO IT. Time for talking is long gone.
IT'S ACT UP OR SHUT UP.
What will I do... what will YOU do... what will WE do...
The choice is ours not theirs. They are doing it because we are letting them do it.
The day we stand up in front them together and decide it has to stop, believe me IT WILL STOP.

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Not what you know
September, 03, 2010, 05:59
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It's not what you know, but who you know. That has to change first.
Pascal Avern is one man, how can he hold two jobs?
Arnel if you treated people nicer before may more people would sympathise now it hurts your career prospects. I guess we would not have heard about it if it didn't hit you personally.

Now you know what it feels like.

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St martin
September, 03, 2010, 08:32
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We all are disapointed with what happening on French St martin.
and we must on day realise that we losing yours and leaving foreigner take over.
lot of us leave it go to easy but we all have one day look behind yours shaulders and leave your griefs and and be there the to help the best we can...

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LOL
September, 03, 2010, 09:55
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Yo know wha happen to we , we love to sit back and gossip to much and talk and do nothing, if you have diplomas and is qualified you have fo fight for what is right, or sometine we get in a possition and just sit and stay there we never look to advance, when look a some collectivite worker they spend all their carriere in ONE POSITION they do not advance so now is is a continuation we get the LESS and we do not DEMAND the best. I SAY put your diplomas on the table an DEMAND THE BEST, if not just walk and go elwhere once you are qualified you do not have towork in ST MARTIN you can work anywhere in a FRENCH TERRITOIRE and show these puppets that you do not NEED THEM , somethine away from home you can better treatement ONCE YOU ARE QUALIFIED.
In other countries people respect the laws, here they do not the have their own laws and applied how they want we need A DOMOTA here for them. I SAY WE NEED A DOMOTA

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For St martin bye St martin
September, 03, 2010, 10:06
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Look for the new party 2012 (united we stand, together we conquer) the solution to multiple problems.

Our mission is to serve the people within the island liberty, find us on facebook and twitter (soon 2 come) a shoulder we all can lean on...

Young dinamic peolple in progress...

R.F.

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Speak out people speak
September, 03, 2010, 10:32
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i think LOL said it all, what you said just recap the entire problem in that collectivité !!! you hit the nail on the head , but just to add on your comments, when working in public services you need dilplomas but if u want to move up , you need to pa*s concours, the sxmers not doing nothing cause they are not capable all they do is bring each orther down all they do is complain all they do is jealous one another is such a pitty

now my grain of rice, J.A is so wrong to invole the names in here issues such and F.S / R.A / M.B / P.H etc... she need to fight her own fight and if she was that good maybe she would of been giving a chance, when last has she pa*s a concours ?? but they cant put micheline racon over a catégorie B, micheline is just a little catégorie c that use to work air guadelope selling tickets, it's not because she pulling her panties down for the politicains means she will get a position, all she needs to do it keep her position in her bed !!! now when i saw that JA mention SP i said well , well when i had my company that boy insulted me told me i need to learn to read etc.... and to find out all philippe has a just a simple BAC not even a bts or nothing just a little BAC, so if u think with a bac u could be in charge well sxm people wake up, we need to stop wanting things that you cant handle , i could speack out loud cause im not a born sxmer but i came here and i work my way up, i tried many times to enter the com, but what they wanted i refuse to drop my self so low ,

it's just so shallow how this women looking for petty but i understand her position, but the com has lot's of guadeloupéen working yes but you think they walk in, u think they just walk in, it's the own sxmer that goes to look for them and they right cause the sxmers like crabs , YOU people like crabs so just remain in your bucket and pull each orther down it's a shame, !!! every one talking about civil servants what about the politians that dont know thier places all they want to do is just be in control and abuse of thier so call powers the com is a crab hole and it's a big voudou mess !!!

may the peace of Gob surround the com and it's workers

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a big joke
September, 03, 2010, 10:34
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say what u want the lady from guadeloupe régine rama*samy came to sxm had a big life and she never show no one the work so the joke is in the president and the seneta to big ZERO , the same for the whtie man in charge of finances hes soon leaving who will take over ??? no on competent to do do soo again they will have to bring in new blood ..

im shame to be a st maartener

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what ever
September, 03, 2010, 10:34
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ohhh JA need to just relax and do her work and pa*s her concours and shut up her trap

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a women of cla*s
September, 03, 2010, 10:36
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well if u want a position all you have to do in bend over and enjoy the ride ... so i guess miss thing they it so she was off the position

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ohh lala
September, 03, 2010, 12:35
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the union needs to enter the com and block it

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Sweet peas had enough
September, 03, 2010, 14:23
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Please, Question the situations? PLSE THEY NEED TO BE ANSWERED!
How can we as a peolple stand and let this type of management and confusions continue in our collectivity.
In the fonction publique there are rules rights and obligations. To evoluate you must sit national exams (concours); As for A.J., she is qualified to the position she has, and the one they are actually offering is a closet position, means empty missions (mise au placard). It is quite difficult for a people to accept what is hapenning not only for her but meany civil servants and most of them stay quiet. However, we have some civil servants who sit national exams like R.A. and have not received any type of propositions from the COM. WHAT IS GOING ON! WE NEED TRANSPARANCY!
INJUSTICE CAN NOT BE ACCEPTED ANYMORE!
There are problems every where on this island, we need to get them solve. We have become second cla*s ctizens in our own community; THIS MUST STOP!
In which country there are so many exterior human ressources what have they done in 3 years? and I heard their contracts are beeing renewed, on the sxm's people taxes.
Yes, They own homes and a life that no collectivity in France will allow them to receive and they even can't work in their country because they are unqualify so how can they be qualify for the COM of SXM.
the sayings says "No prophet is a prophet at his home"
Where are the trainnings promissed to those employees?
There are many competent and excellent civil servants in that collectivity, I must say, whenever i go to that public service i'm very well attended.
The Senator goes on mikes and agressed the employees and say they are unqualified... IS HE A QUALIFIED SENATOR? Look at France television and answer, 1 question and "Hors Sujet"...
M. President, makes a comment on the qualifications of the human ressources in the collectivity (Not a nice one).
TO ALL MANAGEMENTS AND POLITICIANS OF THIS COM, TRAIN YOUR CIVIL SERVANTS... THEY PUT YOU THERE!!!
These politicians are untouchable, they forget who put them there and they will soon be leaving...
NO COUNTRY WILL ACCEPT THIS TYPE OF TREATMENT TO IT's PEOPLE, THEY WILL REACT (Gpe, Mque, Guyana).
ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM IN THIS COM is the supression of the ISF and not a soul walked in the streets and make the senator re establish that tax.
LADIES AND GENTS, we can only be heard if we are a ma*s...
LET US QUESTION OURSELVES...
P.S: when is the most qualified prophet (A.P) is going back in his country? never! can't leave sweet st martin's land...
ALL IS WELL. Thank you MSN

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justice
September, 03, 2010, 15:43
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that woman is too vile .i am supprised she said she has diplomers because someone with education should know how to treat human beings better than that.she used to treat people like dogs.now probably someone she treated bad should take her position and let them meet face to face when she come for help ,let that person kick her.People don't know how that woman is when people used to come to her.Now the table has turned you can demonstrate if you want, they kick you out.soon you will be out for good.Good job you guys.

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BIg problem
September, 03, 2010, 23:47
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we could make comments etc.. but as a women , i will say some of the Ladies in the COM panties are too big, so they are very easy to slip off, that is how you know they will get promoted,

they need to wear thighter panties

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LOGIC
September, 04, 2010, 00:32
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Have you ever asked yourself why is it when a white person is in office they do their work and treat people as human and when a SXMER OR GUADA in there they treat us like dog?

If I could have voted out all sxmers and guada from office I would. I am for white people running office in sxmer. They do what they are paid to do and treat people like human.

When you talk about social security, tax office caf, colectivité, its like a set of BOO HOGS in there. JA feel she was untouchable and treat people like dog, now you coming talking none sense.

Put you out and put a white person in ur job things will run better. Oh for the record I am a sxmer. But when sxmer get in position they use it to get back at people they dont like rather than do what they paid to do.

Have you ever heard how the BOO HOG from colombier talk to peopel in the tax office? Its like you enter her bedroom and dont even say you will complain because every person who work gov do as they please.

But one day all that will be over with, dont worry. Its already here. I cant wait for france to send down some white people and put all these sxmers out of office. THE COUNTRY WILL RUN BETTER

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just ice
September, 04, 2010, 01:27
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the now senator lied to the sxm people, how they manage to hire a director of police municipale without meeting the legal requirements ?(you need at least 40 officers), they have 16 and among those are 4 gardes champêtres. that police force is in a mess, justice need to be done there.

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just ice
September, 04, 2010, 01:51
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here's the article that regulates who is entitle to a director of police municipale : art. 1392 du 17/11/2006
it is time enough we put our own at key positions. let us get rid of these people that cost the collectivity (or we tax payers) huge salary.
M president, i am sorry, but your protected director of police municipale will have to leave, sxm people don't mind taking this matter to court!

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lol
September, 04, 2010, 04:19
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well it look,like JA is making a lot a people talk , what is on their mind you see we are afraid of who will think what, i do not work for the collectivite and i am sorry if i am out of job thtat is the last place i will go. we need LES a*sISES DE LA COLLECTIVITE, and not tomorrow we need it now , at 8h10 the offices in the Collectivite are empty no , employees start walking in at 8h12 ET PLUS.......
The Ressources humaines a la COM manager need to go
JE RECLAME LES a*sISES DES RESSOURCES HUMAINES DE LA COLLECTIVTE DE SAINT MARTIN
in order to get good service for our people ,emplement the real rules and regulations and give the employees what is due to them ...... smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif

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They are hogs
September, 05, 2010, 13:18
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it's a chame now that JA looking for public support and petty from us, too bad she not's getting none from me,
the com workers are hogs one comment mention a lady in the tax office but i i will mention the hogs at the canteen tickets ladies in marigot they are boor hogs , they even dont know how to speack to people it's a shame we have to deal with those public servants need to learn to be nicer and know how to speack to people it's a service they are doing they are hogsss big fat black hogs all they do it eat and get fat im sick of the com is a mess

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On thing
September, 05, 2010, 14:14
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ALL THIS IS JUST TO POINT OUT THE CRAB MENTALITY ON SXM AND MORE OVER IN THE COM

ONE LOCAL TRYING TO MAKE THE NEXT BRING THEM DOWN ITS LIKE A CRAB POT

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So sad
September, 05, 2010, 14:27
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It's so sad to see the way things take proportions and get out of hand in out the context, i don't understand why theese coments are not screen before been posted. It's not nice calling people name and calling people all kind of names bringing down each other.We need to take things easy and slow down the paste, don't forget the world is reading today how do you think it sound and look, if the coment can't be positive say nothing.

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ohh please
September, 05, 2010, 17:33
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to so sad, you rather ber a Hypocrit and say lies , if some of the people in the collectivite are PIGS And HOGS what u want them to say that they are nice people they are friendly and helpfull they are HOGS and i told it to them to the thiere faces !!!

they treat people like animals i respect your views and some of the comments are not nice yes but again you have to be honest with our selve the entire world is reading yes and your point is ?

they work in public places u go for a paper they open at 8 they coming at 8.30 or later ?? what you got to say ?? they dont care you could to get tickets for your child to eat , they are insulting you ohh the caf money for the childrend what is that ??? what is that , they are hogs it's too much to cover up for those pigs

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September, 05, 2010, 17:33
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COM Worker
September, 05, 2010, 22:00
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Why are we not talking about the head of these services/ departements of this little island:
* All civil servants has rights (timing to be a work, rules to follow,...
* They just need to know or remember that without the public there is no job for them. TECHNOLOGY SAY SO!!!!
* They have directors, and a*sistanace directors over them, if a civil servant be rude you should ask in a nice way to be their director. Hahaha, boom boom. But, some people realy misbehave so what you ask for you get.
* Some directors tells the workers to telle the public that their out, can see noone right now. Lies only lies and the public gets upset.
* Everybody has issues in some form, but when you going out to work leave them at home.
In office, there are 3 groupes : the kisses **ses, you can't with us, and those that just work for the money and don't care.
Miss JA, was one of them and she react now because she had enough don't judge her people you all should do the same. Slavery was abolish on paper year ago, but not in the heart or the mind of the human race.
Im, a COM worker and even when i go to some services they treat me like Hey, Hey don't come here.
Miss JA, was rude to me in my school days, but what i don't hate or judge her. She was just use to keep don't her own people, because she is a strong french quarter black woman.
God will jugde us all, and a matter of a fact : You should not jduge anyone He alone know what you are thinking right now as you read this HAHAHA, and He knows what you did last night, yesterday, ....
And, He knows what you will do after reading this!!!
It's pa*s time for us to get up and stand up our rights.
A lot of us, are eyed out by the public of this land to be hogsss, come on show the differences. Go on trainings they are our rights. And, better in your country don't leave others come and take everything.

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A com worker.
September, 06, 2010, 06:02
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Before you go making comments on the COM workers, please read over your sentences. Some of you don't even know how to write a propor english sentence. Seems like you all have grudges against the com workers. The point is no matter where you go there will always be good and bad, justice and injustice. Can a few bad apples spoil a whole bunch?
Never the less, this has gone out of context, out of proportion. We all agree that the com has to change it's management strategy. It's obvious that the COM has issues. They got rid of the toes instead they should have got rid of the heads. Take example on St Barths. This little island is thriving for excellence. The population need to wake up and demand changes, France will have to come and take matters in hands. I see nothing else!

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Know for yourself
September, 06, 2010, 11:01
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When guys out there talking bout the guadeloupeans this they that... J.A why u didn't do that while Régine RAMa*sAMY was here, why react when she left? To the person who say RAMa*sAMY Régine used to do the work n never show anyone ahahahaha, she was doing the people work, while they was siting talking s**t. Why fuight for the others can't they fight for themselves.... Everyone has to know how to fish for themselves....

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com971
September, 06, 2010, 21:42
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hi ,
i hope that everyone are openning they eyes now!!
yes but , sxmner are self fish just because that happing now that she talking out
cause she need help now that why!

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from the inside
September, 07, 2010, 00:17
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Every one could say what they want but Janine is not wrong she may have her ways but today it's JA and tomorrow it could be any one of our co woker, they say today is a big day ; so let's see what s going to happen;

but the sxmers are so appart that it's just a big joke,

i really think that it's not fair what's going on, but JA may have her bac plus 5 yes but she need to pa*s concours she needs to go training etc... and she needs to learn to be professionnal and stop been the victim

stand up and move ok, but on a whole the com is not for sxm people strangers got a better chance than us,

the article says a lot so people stop jumping the to closing quick and read over the article

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