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Haitian Community Held LCF Hospital Hostage after Relative Died --- Accused the Hospital of Gross Negligence.

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lcfhheldhostagebyhatians25052011Marigot:--- Relatives of a 21 year old man identified as William Jeune held the Louis Constant Fleming Hospital hostage for quite a few hours on Wednesday afternoon when they learnt of the young man's death. Several Gendarmes and Territorial Police were called to the scene to bring about order when some of the angry relatives and supporters began throwing rocks at the building. Workers who were about to leave the hospital could not leave the premises as the Haitians nationals converged on the scene.
A close friend to the family said the young man is a French national since he was born on St. Martin to Haitian parents. She said about a year and a half ago William was sent to Martinique where he did a biopsy and he was supposed to be sent to France for a liver transplant but that never happened. The woman said the young man was the holder of a French passport and he was covered 100% by Social Security. The woman who spoke to SMN News anonymously further explained that while William's health must have degenerated over the past year causing other complications with his heart and lungs the family is mostly upset because when William passed away no one from the hospital informed the parents. She said his father slept with him Tuesday night and on Wednesday afternoon when he went to visit his son he found him dead on his bed. "All of the machines that he was hooked up to were removed and they placed his hands across his chest". The father walked in and saw his son like this and when he asked what had happened someone reacted very rudely to him. Later they asked him for the young man's mother who was not yet on the scene. The woman said the doctor who was caring for him jumped on his scooter and left the premises without saying one word to the relatives.
The relatives on the scene were heard saying that the hospital killed William because the young man was suffering terribly since Tuesday. They said William was diagnosed with liver disease two years ago and if he was sent to France he would have been alive. Another friend of the family said the young man attended a training program all week last week even though he knew he was scheduled to leave for France since his parents were making the necessary arrangements to send him for further treatment. She said when he fell ill on Saturday the family called for an ambulance to transport him to the hospital and they were told that there are no ambulances available. "His father had to put him in his car and drive to the doctor's office in Concordia who later admitted him to Louis Constant Fleming Hospital."
lcfhhatianhostage25052011Some locals felt the Haitians were over reacting and the only reason they were holding the hospital hostage was because the State allowed it by having expatriates living on social welfare on the French side.
Father of the victim Yves Marie Jeune in an interview with SMN News said his son was ill for the past two years with a severe liver disease and he has been seeing Dr. Vassell for his illness whom he said has been treating him. The bereaved father said he asked the doctor on several occasions to repatriate his son to France for further medical treatment but the doctor he said kept telling him today or tomorrow. "In my view the doctor refused to send my son to Paris for better treatment. He promised us that he will look for a hospital in Paris which he never did. When I saw that the doctor was not willing to help my son I asked my other son who is currently living in France to contact some doctors in Paris and to see if they are willing to admit my son there. My son spoke to two doctors in France and they both gave him their fax numbers and said Dr. Vassel should fax over my son's medical file but he never did," the elder Jeune said. The father said this past week he bought a ticket to send his son to France for better Medicare but the his son took in on Saturday and he took him to see his doctor who immediately admitted him to the Louis Constant Fleming Hospital.
The father said during the weekend when his son was hospitalized, he begged the doctor to repatriate his son to France but everyday he was saying "tomorrow". The father said on Wednesday morning the doctor finally decided to send his son to France but by afternoon his son was dead.
Another relative; Catherine Joseph said on Tuesday she visited her cousin at the hospital and he was suffering and they called the nurse who told them that he should remain sitting. Joseph said they told the nurse that William could not lie down neither could he sit since he was having severe pains in his stomach but the nurse told them that his condition was not serious. Efforts made to obtain a comment from the hospital management proved futile on Wednesday evening.

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Last Updated ( Thursday, 26 May 2011 02:11 )  
Comments (118)
  • so sad
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    This is just the negligence of LCF hostital. so sad for the family

  • Life
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    They should sue the hospital.......they full of ish this aint the first time and this wont be the last someone should really look into this mess i had a friend that died because of them......
    Sad for the family stay strong!

  • shock
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    My sympathy go out to the family,but i don't condone the behavior of the Haitian Community .a Hospital is a place were sick people is and that was not respected. St Maarten people were not allowed to visit there sick love ones because of these people.

    St Maarten people let this be our wake up call.who don't respect us should not be here on our island.
    The Haitian Community owes the people of SXM a big apology..

  • MinOuOfSXM
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    You are full of it 'Shock"! Your comment is a disgrace to the human race. A young man died and you are talking about nonsense. What if it was your family? This is call grieving. Each human being deal with it a different way. This is their way then let it be. Anyone who has a little understanding about health care can see that this was malpractice. No one need your weak sympathy! Talking about the people of SXM, who are they anyway? Did you check your history book lately? There is no such thing as people of SXM. The people living in it right now, haitian included, are the people of SXM. And by the way, this little piece of land will soon be gone so keep on fighting for things that are not worth it!

  • Sh@#t!
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    And I thought it was only Dutch side was bad and that if anything happened to my family or me I could go to the French side, I guess NOT! They both full of S@#t! My condolences to the fam.

  • CelineSC
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    My child is suffering and barely anything is being done and then dies and I am not called or given an explanation.
    BET on it I would flip!
    That is disrespectful and no one deserves that !
    This was nothing about disrespecting the so called "St.Maarten people", because I'm sure other nationalities had their relatives to visit as-well.This constant Negligence with people's lives on our island St.Maarten/St.Martin is the primarily reason why there is no respect being given to (SXM). Our hospitals are becoming more and more unprofessional not forgetting our sky high crime rate, and it doesn't seem to be getting better.
    If this had to happen to a high positioned St.Maartener's child I'm sure high measures would have taken place against that hospital and many jobs would have been lost. The Hatian community should have handled this different, but I'm sure at first instance anyone would of had a negative reaction to this tragic situation. May his soul rest in peace and may the family find the peace and closure that they deserve.
    We done got the wake up call that this island is bringing itself to its own ruin and I'm sure we wouldn't want to stick around to see it.

  • Anti_Bullshit
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    Who R U Callin These Ppl?! Last time i checked we haitians were human beeings like any other ppl livin on this island... yea they shouldnt have deal with it this way but when you're in pain u deal with it how u can... the boy needed a liver transplant, france has da best hospitals n da doctor refused to send him away for da transplant! the father had to do everything by himself n when he finnaly found a doctor in france da sxm doctor still didnt want to contact da doctor in france... Wouldnt u b mad too?!? personnally i would've done worst my sister is sickle cell they gave her 24h to die years ago is she wsnt sent away she wouldnt b there so i totally understand this "these ppl" (like u say)
    my sympathy goes to the family may his soul rest in peace!
    n yes sxm ppl this should b a wake up call we need bttr health care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • sxmhaitien
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    shcok : t kun imbécile de 1 er kel sxm ?? jte rapel ke san les haitien a sxm ?? sxm ne serai rien!!! vs nete kutile a fumer dillé é tuer !! on né ptete pa parfai mai on nes pa vnu foutre le bordel parkontre on c sfair respecté !! ok le ga es mor dns d movaiz conditions é tu voudrai kon la ferme et ke sa pa**e ??? si c t un sain martinoi srai légitime mai jcroi ke william été plu sai martinoi kta putain de gueule ok il est né a sxm il a fait toute sa scolarité a sxm il été kelkun de respectué et de respecté !! c t pa un voyou il ne méritai pa de mourrir ainsi !! la prochaine foi kan ta rien a dire juste ferme la !!!

  • Youth
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    Sad story! I just hope there were no emergencies during the time the hospital was held up...

  • Zizu87
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    How could people talk about nationality in these circonstances? When it comes to life we are all equal. Haitian people and other foreigners have worked to build SXM when most of the native saintmartiners were moving away instead of constructing it by that time. I think they deserve to be treated like any other person who lives on this Island. A young man died danm it ! who knows what he would have done for SXM later???
    So "shock", do yourself a favor, stop been ridiculous and wake up. We're in de 21st century racism is oldfashioned u need to modernize urself.

    My biggest sympathy goes to the JEUNE family, may God gives you strengh

  • SXM
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    SAD!!!!!!!!!! BUT HOW THERE YOU HAITIAN THAT WROTE IN PATOI TO SAY WITHOUT HAITIAN THERE WOULD BE NO SXM? WITHOUT HAITIAN SXM PPL WOULD HAVE THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE. GOV BANKRUPT BECAUSE OF YOU GUYS. DONT CONTRIBUTE ONLY DRAIN SOCIAL MONEY.

    IT IS SAD AND SHOULD NOT HAPPEN TO ANYONE. DEAL WITH IT THE RIGHT WAY. YOU ALL WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE THAT IN HAITI. BUT EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE IN SXM.

    THERE IS LAW FOR THAT. I KNOW U UPSET, BUT SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE SAID LETS GO TO THE SOUS PREFET R SOMETHING.

    WHEN U MASH UP OUR HOSPITAL IS IT UR TAX MONEY BUILDING BACK? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS SXM PLL. NEITHER IS IT THE GOV OF HAITI THAT WILL BUILD IT BACK. WHAT U CANT DO AT HOME, DONT COME HERE TO DO.

    SUE THE HOSPITAL AND THEY WILL RESPECT OTHERS. I HAVE NO PROB WITH THAT. IF A SICK WAS COMING AT THE TIME, HE WOULD HAVE TO DIE BECAUSE OF UR ACTION.

    THAT IS WRONG. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE ANGRY ITS UR CHILD, BUT TO DESTROY HOSPITAL HOLD PPL HOSPTAGE IS WRONG.

    AND I TELL U, U ARE LUCKY THIS IS A DIFFEREENT GENERATION NOW, BECAUSE SXM PPL WOULD HAVE DONE GREAT DAMAGE YESTERDAY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES

  • Be on the Alert !
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    We need to be understand this situation the parents brought the child to the Hospital it was too late, it was no reason to sent him off to france of else where , when having a transplant its not when the parents want's etcs when the organ is available and comptatible ! the atttitude of violence yesterday was not call for ! say what you want but strangers but learn to respect the country is welcome , and help them of all the nations on sxm haitains are the only one that that abuse and milk the system they are ungreatful set of people ! they should all be sent back to haiti !!!

  • Zizu87
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    This young man had been suffering since almost 2 years now and the doctor refused to send him to France so he could see a REAL doctor many times!!!!! So read the article before reacting. The parents did the doctor's job by finding doctors themselves and he still refused to fax the files. Now tell me WHAT KIND OF DOCTOR IS THAT????

  • marc g menard
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    I think Im the only one on this whole website commenthing with my real name, I know William and the family and the first thing that came to my mine when I heard this situation was : thay will have a lot to say about haitians again. Well it is time to wake up guys, it's happend to william today, it can happend to anybody tomorrow, I just hope that all of you that are just mentionning nationnality and such case will act very good and thank the hopsital when your son pa** away and thay leave the body on a bed, and when you go to visit thats only when you realize he is ded.
    all ways the same old speech, i've been here for 20 yeard now went school here and now i paying taxes all everybody else, but I guess the state don't owe me anything beacause Im haitian. well as I said, let just see how you'all act when the same thing happend to you, rip willy, we will miss you cause we too have a heart and feeling!

  • RUFUS
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    Send all the Haitians back to the pig sty they came from, they are living here off the FRENCH tax payers and expect everything for free...

  • RUFUS
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    Haitians are the biggest recipients of welfare on St. Martin.

  • CelineSC
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    Rather my pig stay than the death pit

  • almost impossible
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    While I understand the families sadness- A liver transplant is almost impossible. Even if this young man had gone to any hospital anywhere in the world, finding a liver and finding one that is compatible, and finding one that his body would accept is really extremely difficult and next to impossible.
    I wonder if the doctor had explained this to the family, I wonder if the family tried to do their own research online and educate themselves on liver transplants.
    No one body or group should ever try to hold a hospital hostage-a hospital is a institution that is caretaker to many not for a few. Their actions displays ignorance and the police has a right to protect the hospital workers and most of all the other patients

  • Janice
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    i think we're taking this thing completely out of context the fact remains the young man was not taken care of the way he should have been. If things were done differently he would have probably been alive today. My condolences goes out to the grieving family. i hope the government looks further into this situation as this family isn't the first and they surely won't be the last.

  • RUFUS
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    Ungrateful people, very ungrateful people.

  • NL
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    rufus...you are a good for nothing idiot. When something like this happens to one of your family members...we will see how u react?! you have no sense of decency..especially when someone's baby is dead!!! go educate your self first and then come to these forums to make a comment.

  • save our souls
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    whats with u guys with the discrimination, i don't care where u from, when it comes to saving a life every one should be treated equally,
    i do not agree with they sending rocks at the hospital just cause there or other sick people in there.
    i hate and i can't stand all this racial talk, you make me sick to my stomach.
    i am a sxmer and will never think like you .

    these people with never get their son back. think about that .....@all the racist

  • save our souls
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    @ RUFUS do u think welfare was just handed to them. i see how early they come do be serve, shows they are serious and are not sleeping on thinks.

    if we sxmers refuse to get our a** of the chair that's our problem but. don't try to put down people who are trying to make a better life for them-self.

    i thought this was a friendly island but, they should change it for
    it your not from sxm your not welcome or of your not from sxm your should be treated differently

    RUFUS you should go back to the pig sty youcame from

  • My island is sick!!!
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    first of all ! my sympathy to the relatives of this young man. It is never easy to deal with the loss of a loved one.However, i think that they could have deal with this issue different.
    (Throwing rocks) come on . Don't come here and do what u can't do in your country!!!
    People we are adults not damn animals.
    How many of us has lost our family!!! is that a way to behave?HOLDING A HOSPITAL HOSTAGE... what is going on in sxm?
    What 's next!!!

  • Dee
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    It is so sad to see how we discriminate each other ,yet the Bible say we are all flesh of God which means we are brothers and sisters.I think it's about time we start showing love to each other and let the peace of God reign in our hearts .If we have the love of God we would never think or act this way,one love my brothers and sisters.May this young man soul R.I.P.

  • Zizu87
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    @Almost impossible: The parents of that young man may not have I high level of education but they did have hope and that's why they wanted to try everything to save their child. Any human being who deserves to be called so would have done the same thing. It is written nowhere that William had 0% chance to survive.

    I know someone who had the same problem and guess what, He got through and now he's living healthy and solid as a rock. So no one will ever know what would happen if the Doctor had sent William to france 2 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY ASKED HIM TO DO SO !!!!!!!!

  • well yeah
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    I'm a pure blood sxm man, but i'm a human also

    yes, to many haitian in sxm
    yes , wefare is being abuse

    but what happen to that boy & his family is totaly wrong, that hospital had even hurt sxm family too.

    So is say they are right to stand up, a life was lost, Haitian people are black just like me

    to family i say, take the doctor to justice, You will be doing all people a favor, it could have been my family member

  • Marcus 27
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    R.I.P. William.....................It's sad that he pa**ed away like that. We lived in the same residency and I knew him as cool, quiet, humble guy. My prayers definitely goes out to his family and friends!!! You will be missed..........

  • racist people
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    So sad to here some people make this a racial issue. All I can say is that St. Maarten do not have their own pa**port. They carry the white Dutch and French man pa**port. St. Maarten/ St. Martin people did not land on the island first, we were brought here as slaves. When slavery was over some of the slaves who were born on the island choose to stay on the island as it was the only home they knew since they've never been to Africa. And others went and lived in on other islands. We are all one so no need to be racist. St. Maarten/St.Martin is destroy not by the outsiders but by us. We tend to blame others without looking at oursleves.

    I do not say the actions of these Haitians are right. They could have handled this issue differently but this is not about where someone comes from. This is about right and wrong.

  • well yeah
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    jeune family, be strong , and get justice,

  • HATER OF LCF HOSPITAL
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    What about to say, i'm sorry to say but that is good for the hospital. They're to negligent, and if the Gouvernment don't check in to the hospital affairs more will die. If i get sick and it happen to b at night i rather die could some of the docotr does tell you if it's tha what u come disturb them for. Now as a civil servant in the medical fied a patient comes to you for attention, is it the proper way to talk to someone in needed. NO BED MANNERS. They needed tha rude awakening!!! :sad:

  • Anti Coruption
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    I just want to say, it is sad what happen at the hospital. Even worst the child dies and parents was not informed and was prevented from seeing their love one. Any parent that read this and does not feel a way is sick.

    I must say sxm can survive without Haitians though, we got spanish, but more seriously we neglect that haitians has helped us a great bit by taking on the jobs we sxm'er have so often neglected. So they do play a major role on our island.

    This on the other hand was not about the haitians as a people, but about the hospital against human beings. The way the hospital handle the situation was the call for the uprising not the death of the young man. As a caretaker the hospital is responsible to inform me of every situation, including the possibility of death. But to reach to hospital and find out your child is dead and then feel neglected is a hard thing to accept, let us just be happy that it did not reach the point of a life for a life.

    Now the hospital should provide the workers with customer training where this is concern. Remember it is not about the boy dying but more about how the boy death was handled.

  • Anti Coruption
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    P.S. Tell "SHOCK" to shut up. The people who always jump up bout "I don't condole" are even worst when it happen to them.

    I bet this would never happen again after what the haitians did for us yesterday.

  • LOVER GIRL
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    ohhhh plzzzzz stop evry body who feel consorne is be because they have a problem with saint martin pple anything dat go down in saint martin must be speak about cause we cant go haiti behave dat kind of way we must respect each otherand let me tell u some thing they hatiens have no respect for no one they always think the can do wat they want in saint martin the have no right the give up the rights long time ago the always saying haiti go the best drs why the didnt send him haiti were got the best dr ======
    :sad: :sad:

  • a haitien girl who are verry s
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    I'm not live in sxm no more. I live sxm since 5 or 6 years ago, william n I was at the same 2nd we were live fq an I know all his familly , his big bro is a real friend and a worker , like is father n his mother , this familly never had problem with anybody , his father was a verry good joker with all young people so I don't know were haitien comme on that story ?? haitien or sxm people need care to much people who went in dat ospital come out dead or handicap !! Ok I'm agree the reaction was bad but if it was u or someone of ur familly ?? dont u done de same ??????? I proud of my country If I had to go back don't worry I'll go because I know that if I there I could live without the gouvenement money ?? wach what happened now !!without gwada support whatz happend ???? just think about it

  • almost impossible 2
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    I had a good friend who waited for a liver transplant in a NY hospital for months. Again, I ask that you search online how difficult this is. My friend died waiting. Again I wonder if the doctor explained this to the family. If he did not, then he did not provide the proper info. As for service at the LC Hospital, more than once we have heard how some doctors do not have bed side manners. The family grieving is understandable, throwing rocks and blocking the hospital entrance is un called for. No excuse whatsoever

  • TJ
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    The doctor should be held accountable for being irresponsible, so now we all know which doctor we should stay away from Dr Va**el.

    But these people throwing rocks and holding up hospital is uncivilized and crazy.

  • Rule of the jungle.
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    That is why Haiti will never prosper.
    It is a land of backwardness, witchcraft and total lawlessness.
    They do not want to understand that regardless what happens, they should not automatically resort to violence.
    If we on this island, justify what they did at the hospital, that will be opening a pandora-box, making our island just like Haiti - a hellhole...

  • Old Uneducated Guy
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    @ racist people
    May 26, 2011
    77.251.42.69

    GREAT post! :-)

    @ Rule of the jungle.
    May 26, 2011
    200.7.55.191

    You racist plonker! Do you really think SXM would be so different to Haiti, if you didnt have the foreigners land here to make you wealthy?

  • did you know?
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    War lyrics
    What life has taught me
    I would like to share with
    Those who want to learn...

    Until the philosophy which hold one race
    Superior and another inferior
    Is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned
    Everywhere is war, me say war

    That until there are no longer first cla**
    And second cla** citizens of any nation
    Until the colour of a man's skin
    Is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes
    Me say war

    That until the basic human rights are equally
    Guaranteed to all, without regard to race
    Dis a war

    That until that day
    The dream of lasting peace, world citizenship
    Rule of international morality
    Will remain in but a fleeting illusion
    (From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/b/bob-marley-lyrics/war-lyrics.html)
    To be persued, but never attained
    Now everywhere is war, war

    And until the ignoble and unhappy regimes
    that hold our brothers in Angola, in Mozambique,
    South Africa sub-human bondage
    Have been toppled, utterly destroyed
    Well, everywhere is war, me say war

    War in the east, war in the west
    War up north, war down south
    War, war, rumours of war

    And until that day, the African continent
    Will not know peace, we Africans will fight
    We find it necessary and we know we shall win
    As we are confident in the victory

    Of good over evil, good over evil, good over evil
    Good over evil, good over evil, good over evil

    Robert Nesta Marley

  • did you know?
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    Nas & Damian Marley - Tribal War LyricsMiscellaneous Album
    0ShareSongwriters: Nasir Jones; Damian Marley

    Tribal war
    We nuh want no more a that
    Every man deserve to earn
    And every child deserve to learn, now

    Tribal war
    A nuh that we a defend
    Every man deserve a turn
    Like a flame deserve to burn

    Tribal war
    We nuh want no more a that
    Each and every one deserve to earn
    And every child deserve to learn

    Tribal war
    A nuh that we a defend
    'Cause every man deserve a turn
    Like Babylon deserve to burn

    Man, what happened to us?
    Geographically they moved us from Africa
    We was once happiness pursuers
    Now we back stabbing, combative and abusive

    The African and Arab go at it they most Muslim
    Used to be moving in unison, disputes would end
    Bounty hunters and Grape Street get cool again

    Some standard housing, got the young running rampant
    Wilding for a Phantom, he can style in
    Mask on his face, grabbing his Luger
    Saying, "Nobody move or I'll shoot ya" Man, you're expiring

    Catch 25 and he does it like a man
    He sides with black, white pride and Mexican
    Survive the best he can, strap a shank to his thigh

    Why do we all collide? Why do the young die?
    Extortion, murder and burglary, tattoos his chest
    Says his enemies don't deserve to breathe

    Tribal war
    We nuh want no more a that
    Everyone deserve to earn
    And every child deserve to learn, Lord

    Tribal war
    A nuh that we a defend
    'Cause every man deserve a turn
    Like Babylon deserve to burn

    I drink poison then I vomit diamonds
    I gave you Mandela, Black Dalai Lamas
    I gave you music, you enthused in my kindness
    So how dare you reduce me to Donny Imus

    Timeless in case we never been acquainted
    Flyness who made it, it gets duplicated
    Mindless violence, well, let me try to paint it
    Here's the 5 steps in hopes to explain it

    One, it's me and my nation against the world
    Two, then me and my clan against the nation
    Three, then me and my fam' against the clan
    Four, then me and my brother we no hesitation

    Uh, go against the fam' until they cave in
    Five, now who's left in this deadly equation?
    That's right, it's me against my brother
    Then we point a Kalashnikov and kill one another

    Tribal war
    We nuh want no more a that
    Everyone deserve to earn
    And every child deserve to learn

    Tribal war
    A nuh that we a defend
    'Cause every man deserve a turn
    Like Babylon deserve to burn

    Man a war tribal over colors
    Over money, over land and over oil and over God
    And over idols and even lovers
    Over breakfast, over dinner, over suppers

    Over jungle, over Rema, over buckers
    Over Brook...

  • chhuuppsss
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    the majority of people trying to turn this situation into a racist fiasco...race is not the issue here people.if it was a case of malpractice the family should take on the matter in a civil way.battling the hospital with stones wasn't called for and was disrespectful ,no matter who did it.

    the hospital isn t the only one to blame in this story .and i hope in time all the story will come out so that the family and alot of angry people out there could understand exactly what went on .

  • concern sxm
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    To old uneduated boy. For your information before all of the hotels exist here on st. maarten. Everbody had cattles and gardens. And for your information we use to catch fish shrimps lobsters in our various pond. We planted on our hills we for we were rich never went to bed hungry. And you know something the island was clean no running water and garbage all over the island. There were 2 nations here the anguillians and the Kittians and they were humble and adjusted themselves well amongst us. So just back up that foreigner build up this island. Every st.maartener had bighouses. So just back off attackings while you are living here.

  • student
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    my condolences goes out to his family

  • 100% tru sxmner
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    i would like to know how much money the haitien brought from haiti to build sxm in they pocket

    sxm people welcomed you all, & u turn around & did & still doing all kind of bad things

    haiti got a new PRESIDENT, direct flights going from Grand-case to haiti almost every day for less than 300$
    LOVER GIRL
    May 26, 2011
    193.251.162.1
    i agree with u

    the shit they do in sxm why they don't try that in guadeloupe in martinique?

    sxm accepted all the trash from haiti,

    WHO VEX LEAVE THE ISLAND,
    WE GOT BOATS (THE SAME WAY YOU CAME IN)

  • 100% tru sxmner
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    in all what i just said, that kid dead is sad,
    the staff responsible for calling the family should never have let that man walk in & find his kid that way,

    but the actions from the haitien community is not justified, it is wrong very wrong to do something like that

    then the comments about you all build sxm, lol, with what?
    again when the sxm people does get vex & say racist things you all like to play the victims but i think you all should consider going back in haiti, & BUILD you all country

  • 100% haitian
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    this go out to shock, you full of ish they even killed sxm ppl so i really dont no what the hell u sayin get it i wonder if u get sick what they will do for u listen they will leave u dead ok n plus he was born here he got his french pasport and papers ok so get ur facts staight

  • Peter Gunn
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    Haitians are the MOST ungrateful people in the World., Their children are today the biggest criminals on the Dutch sides Of St. Maartem.. Middle Rigion and Dutch Quarter criminals are HAITIAN kids that pretend to be St. Maarteners...

  • Peter Gunn
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    I also commented here as RUFUS...

  • Peter Gunn
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    Ungrateful people, Very ungrateful people, Haitians!

  • anit- racist
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    @ rufus n @ lover girl........ i hope while yall was writting those ish yall thought bout yall future..... let me tell u this every nationality has their rights to talk great bout their country aint no body going to go to a next island and talk ish bout the country the fact of the matter is if haitians as well as other nationality goes to a next country its to make a better living for their self n family not to come n b treated like animals..... how much sint maarteners that goes away n have to deal with this same ish haitian r dealin on this island soo dont come with that... last i heard sxm ppl has dutch pa**ports n u go to holland u bearly get any respect... we r all humans at the end of the day..... from my point of u the reason y yall soo ignorant to the fact of y they reacted so is because u havent been placed in a situation like this yet.... mind u god dont sleep n karma walks in the face of this earth u better speak wisely cuz wha ever u say can b done on to u........

  • ciana
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    anit-racist that is rite wat u say they really dont no how ma fam is dealin with this situation is not like he ever got arested or did something bad he a good person he always smilin even wen he is feelin pain yall ppl that is talkin f bout this situation just with for yall turn and i will like to see how yal will act to it wicked ppl

  • Hpluv
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    My condolences to the friends and families of the youngster.
    I am not in a position to lat blame.
    I do have an opinion about wrong and right.

    The family/friends have a right to stand up and protest.
    I disagree with them hampering others from getting medical treatment or being visited by friends and loved ones.

    To attack a nationality on this forum will not solve the problem.
    Please go to the authority in charge of health and if you get no satisfaction there, go to the legal authorities.

    Blesings!!!

  • Shame!
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    Y'all need to quit frontin'! Get real.
    I'm a Saint Martiner, not a proud one, but I am.
    You hold your tiny island on a pedestal when in fact you should be ashamed of even admitting that you're "from hur".
    How many of you have St Martin progenitors? Both parents?
    And Saint Martin doesn't belong to YOU. It belongs to Sarkozy. What happens when he decides to take away your pa**ports?
    Of course, that won't happen, rest a**ure that people like you are needed in order to benefit THEIR advancement. Idiots.
    If you've lived abroad you'd have a better understanding of where I'm coming from.
    This isn't a Haitian issue nor is this the first time this happens at LCF.
    Papers and rights are for those who seek it. Continue to sit on your a**es and complain about X having this and don't fetch yours. It'll come to you.
    Try changing your attitude when you walk into an administrative building and see if you don't obtain what you seek.
    "I from f**king Hur, how come I can' get this, Why dey Haitian getting that?"
    When you introduce yourself as a pig you get treated as such.
    I myself nearly lost my life because a certain doctor was too busy gambling on the Dutch side of the island to haul his tail back to the hospital to perform his duties so asked for a colleague to replace him.
    You need to better YOURSELVES. You're in NO position to criticize ANYONE, you poor imbeciles.

  • cla**y
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    I Think you hatians are crazy. You are not helping to construct st martin?. You have ruined st martin. St Martin was once beautiful and cla**y. St martin people have cla**, the real natives. You come there and trry to destroy the place with your nastiness. Wherever you live you have it looking like a pig sty. You need to be shipped back where you came from. Very few of you have cla**. If people are leaving st martin they are not pleased with the overcrowding and the crimes that folllow as a result of foreigners invading st martin. You are not adding any beauty to st martin you are ruining st martin. You are not welcome here. I know what st martin used to be like. It's a shame what you have done to it.

  • ...
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    Peter Gunn,
    I dunno you, but damn it, you always hot the nail on the head.
    We take the worst trash in the world and treat them like royal.
    The worst and most ungrateful come from that lost paradise them call Ayity.
    They are a total maladiction to any country they go to, but they do not want to go back to their rathole.

  • Wise or Wacky
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    In happy or in sad moments PEOPLE OUGHT TO CONDUCT THEMSELVES IN A PROPER MANNER.

    UNCIVILIZED and BIZARRE BEHAVIOUR have no place in our community in which many of you say you BUILD but conveniently FORGET the fact that many of you are still BENEFITTING from what sweet ST.MARTIN still has to offer.

    BENEFITTING from the SOCIAL WELFARE a**ISTANCE which you surely never brought along when you first came here.

    Your BIZARRE BEHAVIOUR OF:

    1) BATTLING THE HOSPITAL WITH STONES WHILE ENDANGERING THE LIVES OF PATIENTS IN THE HOSPITAL.

    2) HOLDING THE HOSPITAL HOSTAGE WHILE ENDANGERING THE SERVICE TO PATIENTS AND THE SAFETY OF PATIENTS ARE ABSURD AND UNCALL FOR.

    Such actions you will find in UNCIVILIZED, JUNGLE or BANANA REPUBLIC where people like you will welcome such actions as ENTERTAINING.

    ENDANGERING A HOSPITAL FROM FUNCTIONING DISTURBING THE PEACE AND SAFTEY OF PATIENTS AND VISITORS IS A SERIOUS AND IRRESPONSIBLE ACTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS SOONEST.

    NO REASON OR CIRCUMSTANCES CAN or WILL EVER JUSTIFY SUCH BIZARRE BEHAVIOUR.

    LETS HOPE THAT THIS SITUATION NEVER REPEATS ITSELF AGAIN.

  • ...
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    @Wise and wacky,

    You speak not only for many proud St. Martiners, but also for many Caribbean people, who are also experiencing that haitians are a plague not to mess with.
    The Dominican republic is their real match.

  • Shame!
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    Cla**y, sweetheart.

    If I may make a suggestion.

    Go back to school if you've ever attended.

  • Shame!
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    Wise and Wacky.

    LOL Now we're civilized, we're no longer whipping our a**es with balled bush or shitting in buckets.

    Big things a go goan!

  • Shame!
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    Really, all I'm saying is stop criticizing people.
    We're treated as poorly as the Haitians when abroad, aren't we?
    Guadeloupe for instance, to them we're *Trash* *Illiterate* (Which isn't entirely false as proven by some of the brilliant commentators) *dummies* and *animals*.
    You sit quietly in an office and hear how poorly they speak and think of us.

    One Caribbean. One people!

  • danitza michel
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    That so unbelievable, am so choke even do the familly will never have they son back there should sue the hospital and the doctor. c'est une faut tres grave avant que cette tragedit ce reproduisse il devront retire le droit d exserce au docteur. Mon Dieux protege la familles et amies. mes sincere condoleance tout mes priyer a la famille

  • ...
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    If haitians had are right to battle hospitals any time one of them dies, there would not be one hospital spared in haiti.
    So, what they do next time around, invade our hospitals armed with machetes ???
    Isn't their behavior backwards and medieval ??

  • Shame!
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    to . . .

    I have to agree with you. It is.
    There are better ways of handling that kind of situation, filing a law suit being one of them though they would have to act immediately and the process is a long and tedious one or they could do it *uncivilized* style. Voodoo! Have anyone they feel are involved in the wrongful death of their beloved child drop dead! BANG.

  • MinOuOfSXM
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    As I read these mainly stupid comments, I have to give a shout out to "Shame" who seems as a well educated person. Yes, I've lived in SXM for a longtime. Yes, I knew William, who was a devoted Christian by the way -- so the voodoo part should not be mention here at all! Not all Haitian do voodoo people! -- Anyways, We went to the French Lycee together. He was a decent person, so to use his misfortune to talk about how you hate Haitian is really low. It's been 2 years since I've left SXM to continue my studies. Guess what? in those 2 years only 1 old couple knew about SXM. I was always proud to say that I'm from SXM and I'm still is but you have to keep in mind that SXM is close to being unknown to the rest of the world. Mind you, they know about Haiti. I'm not here to bring SXM down but those uneducated people need to get a life and a little education. Most of you need to stop believing everything that you see on TV or hear on the Radio. I'm sure none of y'all talking trash about Haiti didn't go there. I can a**ure you that some places in Haiti can use SXM as a dumpster. Again this is not my point to compare both Islands because i find it quite disrespectful to William. What I wanted to say to all those so call SXM-ners who believe that Haitians are a "malediction" -- Big LOL! I bet your grandad is Haitian or your Boyfriend. Go dig a little bit. Lol. Stop being so narrow minded. White are already stepping on us Blake people and you are doing the same to YOUR BROTHERS. History people. Did you know that we all came from Africa? Your great great grandmother might have end up in SXM while her sister in Haiti. They didn't care if you were related or not, they just sold you to whomever, wherever. Stop being some angry fools, and try to make this world a better place by embracing every damn nationalities. There is one race -- The human race. I can't believe that these kind of people still exist today! Smh. Instead of waisting time posting nonsense, go to the library and do a little reading. It's never to late to get a little knowledge or else history will repeat itself -- reference to Hitler hating on the Jews. Anyways, R.I.P William, you are in a far better place right now, in a place where you will not be judge base on your nationality or any other nonsense. May God have mercy on all our souls.

  • MinOuOfSXM
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    Black*
    Wasting* -- correcting my few typos. :-)

  • Peter Gunn
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    90% of Middle Region and Dutch Quarter CRIMINALS are young Haitians...They are giving St. Maarten people a BAD name..

  • cla**y
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    Shame. You have a lot of nerve. If you want to correct me on my english, go right ahead. I don't care. Don't try to shift becasuse iI hit a nerve, I am busy and i don't have time to make things suitable for your retarded behind. The important thing is: You should have gotten the point. Nastiness, pig sty. What part of that you don't understand. That's what haitians are doing to st martin. Run on sentences is only to confuse your retarded behind the more.

  • friendly what?????
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    MY deepest condolences to the family of William Jeune....
    I wish the family and friends strength in this hard time....
    Does this country really deserve the name THE FRIENDLY ISLAND?????? I don't think so.. It's a beautiful country with racist people.... The only friendly people in this country are the foreigners. Saint Martin/ Sint Maarten people all they know to do is critisize other caribbean people.. The day's gonna come when they gonna get their share of hard times, which has already started, and they gonna be looking to run to the other caribbean countries... Sxm people start praying for forgiveness cause the wrath of the almighty is gonna fall on you someday and your mouths won't be that big anymore..... Set of Stupid none educated people.

  • Gospel
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    pk tout ses insulte tout ses blabla sa ne sere a rien ke vous etre pour ou kontre william est dja mort et et c'est le medecin ki a fai ses erreure et il sera juger kan même so je voi pas poukoi vous vous insulter sa sere a rien tout le monde est témoin de la situation en plus cest po la premier personne ki est mourt comme sa la vous perdé du temps a ecrire a parlé trop de personne a pa**é leur temp a parlé a ecrire maintenan il est temp a agir car sen n'est trop la c'est une situation trop grave on parle de racisme faut agir pas ecrire maiton les tête ensemble a réagire ecrire ne va nous amener nul pare moi je suis saint martinoit de parent saint martinoit et jsui la a soutenir les haitien car san eux les saint martinoit seront perdu c'est ske je pense et se william c'est un bon jeune homme avec plein de talen tres motivé tres respectieux REST IN PEACE to all the familly big foss

  • Gospel
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    et en plus vous parler seulment de DUTCH SIDE vous sorter du conversation la on est a la partie FRANCAISE

  • Shame!
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    Cla**y, I'm going to a**ume that you're a very young person. I'm in my early 30s and I can still remember a time when my descendants spread their behinds in the pond to defecate or when the kitchen was also used as the bathroom. God bless urbanization and the coming of the White man or you too might have prolonged the custom.
    When was the last time you've been in Marigot, Rue General de Gaulle or Rue de la Republic for example? Haitians don't live there, explain why it's the dirtiest and smelliest on the French side.
    I'm not trying to shift anything, if you know how speak, read and write English properly, time isn't a factor.
    When you criticize people at least try to show that you're in a position to do so. You have to come correct and STAY correct.
    Open your minds. Open your hearts. Learn how to live together.

  • jmhw
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    to all the idiots that make sxm their home and still here bashing us,we have not one but two airports and harbours galore,i know for a fact that Juliana International Airport has flights leaving every couple minutes,so PLEASE get on one of those flights and leave our paradise,everyone comes here bragging about how great their country is but still they dont want to go back.sxm for sxm'ers

  • cla**y
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    Shame I lived in st martin and never had to use my kitchen as the bathroom.That's nasty. Nor did I empty myself in a pond.. There was the outhouse. We can be poor but we don't have to be nasty. I have been in St martin several times and those streets yes there are haitians living there.They squat in abandoned houses. tell me if that's not nasty.I see you are a very proud person. I don't have to prove anything to you. My english is very clear. I read and write english properly. I am very educated but i don't have to impress you. I express myself in a way where the common person can understand. If you want to attack my way of speech and typing errors. You need to edit all the comments made thus far. At least I don't use they she and ayo.I lived there when Hatianss moved next door to me. i was an eywitness to their nastiness. I will not respond anymore to your ignorance. Hatians are not helping to build st Martin. They need to go back to their own country and rebuild there. We don't need their help. If you can't do anything with your own country then you need to shut your mouth.

  • chhuuppsss
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    situation blown out of proportion......the family upset cause they didnt get a call from the hospital concerning the childs death and all you here going on like a**es bout all kinda other dumb shit.
    @SHAME...you chose the right name to come on here talking your negativity.thank god it have sxms may they be mixed or not that still beleive and will stand up for this island .iam a french saint martiner,3 generations strong AND A VERY PROUD ONE.
    many of you on her etalking the worst about my island and still wont leave .please explain me why is that?????

  • Gégé
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    I understand the pain of the family, and their willingness to justice. But justice doesn't mean to raise a riot! Sue LCF hospital, but violence ccan't help in this issue. I do think haitian community owe us apologies!

  • hmmmmmmppp
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    I dont give a hoot what soe of you people say...Dem haitians too damn bold and out of place to hold th hospital hostage..that wasn't the way to dea with the matter....Let me hear they do thst shit in my country..I takin the next fligh home and will find out what going happen...all over the caibbean they go and disrespect, dirty up, vodoo up people country d even want to cut down our trees...sht in bag and throw their shit all over de place...they oing how much shi inpple country den they saying if St Maarten is a place....meaning St. Maarten not good to live in so what de hell they doing here....you people let foreigners cme to our country and do a bunch of shit and nothingmuch is being done about it....Do something!!!!

  • Shame!
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    Cla**y. I thank you for the precious few minutes of your time you have spared to respond to comment and no, you have nothing to prove to me as you nor I are the subjects of what's being discussed.
    Seems my grandparents, aunts, uncles and other relatives (Born here) were the only ones who defecated in ponds or in their kitchens.
    Another thing. Who mentioned needing Haitians to help the island? Why would anyone in their right mind believe they can do ANYTHING to better the state of the island, seeing that they're unable to do it for themselves.
    I asked that you and your comrades stop criticizing people, there are nasty vile people everywhere in the world.

  • Ziva
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    Yes, there are many ways to take care of a problem,that don't have to lead to violence and or a riot.But let's look at it this way,hopefully :the Haitian community just opened a door ,the door of " let's be carefull how we deal with our patients and their family ,because not everybody is pa**ive in their grieve'.Plus they know now that all eyes on them, someone have to give account of his , or her or their action. Not that I am saying ,that this is the way to do so,I am against it, because innocent people could have gotten harmed . To the Haitian community:I can't tell you "well done " next time ,their is other ways to do things.You could have kept a marchin protest , or a vigil ,call the media and voice your opinion. One of your compatriots lost his life, but a rock don't have eyes, and on the same way, is a weapon,you could have spoil it for others and kill someone also, and then what ?Did their family have to act the same way as you did ?That is what starts wars.And we don't need more wars on this earth. .....

  • be aware sxm
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    Only on sxm people can come and impose their way of life, bad habits and disrespect on the country that has give them the privilege to make a living.
    That is called simply ingratitude.
    So what is next ?
    Haitians going to schools with machetes because a teacher 'abused' on of their children ?
    Or a haitian mob going with machetes to a police-station to chop up police-officers ?
    Just remember if those people who did that to the hospital are not seriously held liable other.haitians will interpret that as our law being a walk in the park and that they can now take their backward and lawlesness to the next level.
    haiti did not have a 'papa' (Duvalier) for nothing...they are ruthless people.
    Be aware SXM......

  • lover of sxm island
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    Saint Martin/ sint Maarten is a lovely island and has helped us foreigners a great deal.... We are greatful for what the island has done for us.... But the people, lord have mercy.... What a set of RACIST UNFRIENDLY PEOPLE..... STUPID MENTALITY... The incident happened to a haitian.... God forbid if it was a sxm person.... It would have been worse.

  • gospel
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    lover of sxm island ( u right iam a 100/100 sxm girl and ah know our nation whould do worse )
    in school them haitien children is the most starter them who come from haiti sxm ppl just jalouse
    dont listen to them dont matter bout them
    il on pas de cervèl il ne réfléchiz po avant d'agir un coter c'est une hont pour moi

  • Judith
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    I don't think it is a racist issue.I think it has to do with how people carry themselves. It's not the color of the skin it's the content of your character. If you act like animals how do you expect for people to respect you. Violence is never the answer, Sadly yes a young man is dead. Who knows if there is anyone to blame. I think st martin people have been fed up with some haitians who carry on like savages. This has benn the case for a long time. We all originate from somewhere else, true. but when you go to someone elses country you should be an a**et , a blessing, a strenght, godsend. Not bothersome .Nobody is downing the Hatians. We do not respect theirr actions. they did not respect their own son to carry on like that in such a moment of sadness. You can love somebody but hate their ways. If we wanttot consider ourselves human beings then we must act civilised. There are some nice haitian people. But sometimes the bad ones give the innocent a bad name.It's not the fact that they are hatians but it is what they procduce. If st martin people were to act that way to. I would also have something to say. It's not what we take. It's what we bring with us wherever we go.

  • Roots
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    There's a place for everything. There's so much hate going on here that you have to tip-toe around the commentaries.

    1. Condolences to the parents & family on the loss of your son. No one parent wants to go through this and rightfully so, if you were not called immediately and walk in to a dead body. It's hard, granted.

    2. the young man had a liver disease. One thing that puzzled me is the communication between doctor & parents about his condition We all have hope but we must face the truth. 2 years yes but his liver could have been so damaged/infected and by the way, not one but both liver. And where would a hospital anywhere in the world will be able to replace both liver at the same time? are there dying people out there that you can find, let alone allocate a pair of good organs to anyone? What about a match? If he was so sick, you know he could not fly, didn't you? The doctor may have failed to tell the family he was terminally, there is nothing you can do in these cases. You can only keep them on pain killers, morphine to ease the pain.

    3. I was once told in Guadeloupe by a doctor at the CHU/PAP that my mother was going to die. She said I won't lie to you so if you do not understand what I'm saying, get a family member to come to the hospital. I did not throw stones then and will never do such.

    4. You should never find excuses for wrongdoings. WRONG is wrong just like SIN is sin: white lies, hard lies. A thief is a thief.

    5. SXM ppl have lost loved ones in that hospital even under very supicious circumstances but you have not heard about it because we know how to BEHAVE. You can NOT battle a Health institution. Charges should be brought against ALL who participated in that charade.

    6. Lastly, ppl use this site to vent anger, hate and call names etc...There needs to be a dialogue on why it is always a St Martiner versus foreigners and when things happened unexpectedly, how to deal with it...

  • Judith
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    God loves the sinner but hate their ways. Yet he is a God of love. I understand the grief of the family.I do hope you can find consolation and peace in your hearts about your son's death.We all react differently in difficult circumstances. We need wisdom in times like these.

  • visa
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    so do u think is the guyananies and jamaicans who should realy need a visa to come to sxm lol ?

  • Shame!
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    Well said, Roots.

  • haitian girl
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    this is just sad
    god is with this familly
    you people just wicked hein
    haitian ppl are good ppl
    the reason why haitian children like this is bcuz dey follow der sxm kids okay
    cuz haitian ppl always try to bring the best out of their children
    and listen if sxm didnt had no haitian....that country wouldnt be sxm....let me ask yall a question? who clean the road?.....who make the road nice?..who work in most office in sxm? who clean? n who cook in most restaurant?
    noww answer my questionn if you can
    is bcuz of haitian ppl der country looks like this
    u ppl just jealous n wicked
    iam a haitian n i got my rights .....

  • TO ROOTS
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    VERY WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Dutch national
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    You people on the French side are so hypocritical. Any time something happens over there you all block the roads and take the law into your own hands. Just because it happens to be Haitians doing it, suddenly you have something to say. I don't condone any behaviour like that from anyone, but I think it's about time people stop treating haitians like they are less than human. The same way you are treating them is the same way you hate to be treated by white people. Every nation has it's good and bad, sxm included. And believe me this island doesn't need the haitian's help to turn it into a cesspool. It's getting there just fine on it's own. How many haitians are locked up? and how many good for nothing sons and daughters of the soil are jobless,dealing drugs,making children, living off the system. You fully well know and are ashamed about it, or at least should be. It's always easier to target someone else not to expose your own filth. Ask you grandparents where their parents went to make a living when sxm had nothing. That same haiti and other Caribbean countries you so diligently put down. Sxm? give me A break. With it's one pillar economy and greedy, unlawfull, nasty people who call themselves Christians. Shame on you. At least the haitians Stick together, you all against everyone including yourselves. If you had the mental capaciti to be one people, the country would not be in shambles today. " from here" that's the most backward, retarded statement I have ever heard. It takes alot to leave your country and make a living somewhere else. If half of you even had the guts to attempt you would fail, seeing as you have the most ignorant things to say. And no I am not a foreigner. I am a Dutch national, born and raised.

  • me nose
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    What Dutch national ?
    You are foreigner- adn ungrateful one too, who got naturalized.
    No original St. Martiner with pride talks that type of crap.

  • ...
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    @haitian girl,

    All nice talk.
    But explain yourself why haiti is the most backward, most densely populated, corrupt and primitive country in the western hemisphere, where ever haitian rather take a leaking matra** to cross the ocean, rsik eating by sharks to anywhere, but haiti.
    You all biggest problem is that you blame everybody for your misery and continue to live in denial, meanwhile hoping obeah and the social welfare system of other countries is your right and will solve your problems.
    They will not, because you are not honest to yourselves, let alone to others.
    You still live in thestone-age

  • ...
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    And what should the families of those St. Martiners do, who were denied medical treatment and other social services, because haitians have deliberately blocked them access ?
    I know elderly St. martin people who were denied medical emergency attention, because the place was full of haitian women delivering babied to benefit from the Caf.
    Does that give us the right now to also battle those haitians ?

  • chhuuppsss
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    @roots..well spoken....@me nose... im happy to see you feel the same way i do....No true saint martiner with pride would talk the kinda crap some of these so proclaimed saint martiners on here talking.my question is why hide your true nationality to talk shit if you so proud of way you come from???
    to the few who on here saying you from saint martin and yet cant hold a sentence neither in english or in french ya ll need to stop.i can smell patois all over your comments.

  • 100% tru sxmner
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    to : haitian girl

    sxm kids got haitien kids following them?

    it's sxm kids that control "cité soleil" in haiti?

    its our sxm kids that told them to kidnap the priest & the nuns a few years ago, & had them hostage & asking for an ransom?

    it's sxm people who teach you all voodoo & how to thief from the french goverment?

    IT SXM FALT YOU ALL COUNTRY POOR?

    sxm welcome you all but i really think sxm should do like st-barths filter who comes in

  • Judith
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    Your country is too congested, Naturally you will encounter all sorts of problems. You would think St maarten has goal or something the way people flock there.I notice one thing whenever you speak against violence you are automically labeled as a racist. Somehow we think it's easier to act irrationally than to reason. becauise we refer to people from haiti as Hatians we think some of us are being prejudice. If you were from Canada, we would call you a canadian. It's not where you from makes you less of a person. It's what you do. I believe there are those who are ashamed of their own people. If one group does something demeaning we usually want to label the whole race. That's whatt African American go through in America. In every race there is trouble with human beings.
    People have emotional problems, abuse neglect, rejection, we don't have enough social workers to deal with these cases. still there is no excuse for our actions. But most do not want to listen.They still want go on with their asinine ways. some flip things around to keep strife and hatred going on.

  • Judith
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    Excuse typing errors.

  • ...
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    If there are any people who are really justified to express any type of disgust and even violence, its is we the sxm people.
    Every **tch and he brother has come to our island and has contributed to us becoming second-cla** people in our own home.
    So who the heck are these haitians to do what even we do not do in our own home let alone in someone else home ?
    I am sick of them always playing the victim role, while outbreeding St. Martin people as Daniella Jeffrey has proven in her last book.
    They are simply a plague.
    If they do not like what is happening here, why the hell they do not go back where they from born there or not.

  • Judith
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    I agree those who are there now they do not represent good but evil. Then it's time for St martin people to step up and speak out and talk to the government to see what they can do to stop the evil current.. I am by no means trying to make the bad ones the victim here. I know it is heartbreaking to see people come into your country and make you feel like you are second cla** citizens. You see when we voice our opinions we are bad. But they can say whatever they want to say about St Martin people and it is justified. I heard some say they are building St Martin. St martin people prospered very good way before they even set foot on the island..

  • Sharon
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    very well said Judith.

  • ...
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    @ Judith,

    you make a lot of sense.
    As for those foreigners who claim that they build St.Martin and that the island will be doomed if they left...crap.
    The day there is no greenback dollar to be made on our island, they will be outta here in no time, because that is the only reason they come and take any job if necessary...for the dinero.
    If they really want to help out of love and concern, haiti could use a lot of their loving care and hard work....

  • Peter Gunn
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    How ungrateful can one be? Remember well, the Haitians attacked the UN workers who went to Haiti to help them after the earth quake, blaming them for Cholera. Cholera only develops in areas of extreme filth. Why did these Haitian people not send their son the Haiti for medical treatment?

  • ...
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    @Peter Gunn,
    Simple, because every haitian knows that Ayita is a hell-hole, they all want to escape, even by leaky raft.
    But when they in somebody else's country, it is easy for them to boast about how great haiti is and to be ungrateful, like everybody owes them everything..

  • Judith
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    Where is Shame on this comment?

  • Judith
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    Goof one Peter Gunn. Well said.

  • Judith
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    Oops meant Good one.

  • Shame!
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    heheh Present Judith!

    I've said it numerous times in the past and will again tonight.
    We, the Saint Martin people, need to stop placing the blame on foreigners for the state of our island, they are here in search of a better life.

    The problem not only resides in our administration, the people who govern this island but within the community.
    We expect to benefit from certain rights without so much as filling an application, it doesn't work that way, anywhere.

    Just the other day I had a short exchange with an old mate who was complaining about her financial situation and I explained to her that she could file a request for financial a**istance with the Caf in order to help with her expenses, something she knew absolutely nothing about.

    These people aren't preventing us from acquiring what's rightfully ours, you don't seek -you don't find.

    Another thing, when you walk into an administrative office, know how to comport yourself. I can't tell you how many times I've seen deserving individuals turned down because of how they conducted themselves in the waiting room.

    Again, I'm not condoning their poor behavior. I'm asking that we stop indicating fault and blaming foreigners for our domestic snags.

  • Peter Gunn
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    Wondering why local and other businesses are going bankrupt daily on Frence St. Martin? Because of the high taxes imposed on them by the French socialist state. Everyone will have to be on the caf soon...What beter life will anyone have on caf?

  • Peter Gunn
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    I guess anything is better than what Haiti has to offer...

  • Peter Gunn
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    None one deserve a better life living off the backs of others. Yes, St. Maarten people in the past went to work in other countries.

    However, I can guarantee you that they never collected welfare there. They WORKED HARD for the little they earned and sent back some to feed their family that was left here..

    Yes, they worked hard for what they earned " No CAF". A tick is also looking for a better life on my dog. However, I dip my dog with tick dip whenever I see any...

  • Gee
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    If you had common sense and morals you would understand that violence and foolish acts like what some of your people did towards a public place like a hospital is just immoral and wrong.
    Lots of people have felt some sort of injustice when a loved one died, no matter the pain others cannot pay the price and remember doctors can't always perform miracle, only God can!
    As a proud St Martiner my people when they left home to work, they work hard and never profit of any sort of freeloading system like what we have now on St Martin thanks to France.
    As one of your people said in a previous post, unfortunately if we had less of a "crab mentality" as a St Martin people and started looking for our people first and stop helping other or wasting our time trying to destroy our own, we would not be in this shit hole today. Don't get me wrong we must be kind and help others, but a small island like St Martin cannot be burden with the problems of such a big nation like yours or any other.
    As a people you need to stop blaming the world for your greedy politicians who put Haiti in the slum as it is in today. We as a St Martin people can only blame ourselves as we just sat back and said nothing when we all know what was and is going on our island.
    Oh yes the friendly island!!! too friendly too me, as we have gotten slaps so many times in our faces and yet still smile! That needs to be changed though. Hope this be a wake up call my people as we can be minorities but if we stay strong no matter the majority no one can walk on us.
    One last thing, to the ignorant person who said St Martiners are afraid to leave their island, well inform yourself first before you post, there are plenty successful St Martiners abroad, of course we can't compare to the Haitians in the world as our little island is so small.
    As a reminder if you want people to respect you, you must first respect others and the ways of people in their country, so to those Haitians who feel/felt like some St Martin people has disrespect you in some way, look at yourselves first and show some respect to get some. Your people has disrespect our health system (imperfect thanks to the over population of this island so mostly you again) and our people by such animal acts. Uplift your selves and please stop living like the world owes you anything. Start praying to God and ask him to deliver your country from the evil forces, the same one that your ancestor sold their souls to get freedom.

  • Peter Gunn
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    Ungrateful people: Fact, after the earthquake the world sent them ambulances, trucks, food, excavators, tents and building material.

    The Haitian authorities kept the stuff at the ports demanding the donor nations pay IMPORT duty for the aid sent them..

  • ...
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    This is a very good and necessary discussion which was needed a long time.
    Too long have haitians prfited from the sympathy St. martiners and others had towards them for decades.
    But, it is more than time they need to be educated in many ways.
    One being that natives should come first in their own land, and that Haitians are not the only ones with problems. In addition, breeding like rabbits without any sense of responsibility nor care is only making matters worse. Not only for them for for every host country as well.
    their a**ociations, churches should also teach them these principles instead of setting them up, to abuse the social welfare system at the expense of others also in deed.
    Congrats to all for this discussion and shame to our politicians who for political shortterm mileage allowed this situation to festor. They are our real foes, not the haitians

  • Peter Gunn
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    When the jacka** did not allow the fox to ride him any longer.
    The fox also labeled the jacka** a racist..

  • Jack
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    The only disgraceful person here is the treating doctor. It is unfortunate that hatian people and St.Maarten people are attacking each other here, while the real culprit is getting away free.

    Hatian people; St.Maarten people have accepted you in our home, and compared with many Caribbean immigrants, we always had a good relationship with you. Let us get over this difficult period, lay your son to rest and resume our relationship

    You must understand that throwing stones at a hospital which renders service to all is wrong, even though we sympathize with you Tomorrow when a hatian has to be admitted to that same hospital, how will you feel? Nervous, ashamed?

    Our authorities on both sides of the island need to really look into the sub-standard, poor quality service health care professionals are giving! Who feels it knows it!

    I am sure that if this was a white French patient, things would have gone different

  • Jack
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    When you look at all of the comments above, it is a clear lack of vision and leadership on the part of all our politicians.

    In most countries who have a influx of foreigners look for a better way of life, they introduce a integration program, to make sure that these immigrants understand our customs, history, culture and what the social acceptable norms are.

    On St.Maarten, we allow everybody to come in, live how you want, do what you want, when you want, to who you want. So what do we expect? We have failed as the host of this country to lay down the ground rules as to what we will accept / not accept.

    It is simply time to have a debate so we can change our name "the friendly island" into something more realistic to these times.

    Rather than Hatian and St.Maarten people now cussin' each other, now we need to have a national conversation, and both parties have to start taking personal responsibility,

    Now matter what either party think, the fact is we cannot go back to the past. Many hatians are born here, and that is just the reality

    So let's get with it

  • Jack
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    If the hatian did not throw those those stones, and hold the hospital hostage by blocking off the place, everyone, and the whole world would have given them support.

    They still have a case, but if they had conducted themselves in a civil manner, they would have lawyers begging them to take up this case in defending them

    As I said before; lack of explanation from the doctor, apparent reluctance to send the boy to France, and total inconsideration and lack of respect to inform the family timely that the boy was not going to make it. You can't tell me they could not have called the family before the boy draw his last breath?

    Whether you are from St.Maarten or Haiti, nobody wants to be traumatized into shock by finding their family dead in a bed in a hospital. It simply gives the feeling that the hospital staff was negligent

    Honesty is still the best policy!

  • Gee
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    @Jack
    In live you must see beyond the color of people's skin. There is one human race, not 2 nor 3 or what ever number you can imagine. We as humans are blessed by our differences and that is what makes us strong and beautiful. The world would be such a boring place if we all looked alike would it? Why is it that in your statement you feel that the situation would have been different if the patient was white and French. Not all staff in the hospital are white and French. So my friend wake up!!! Whites do die too you know lol and right here in St Martin for lack of care. Remember we live on an island and not all health services would be available. Remember this also he needed a liver transplant. Man can't make liver, they get them from other dead humans of course those who before they died was sign up as organs donors. Then you have the complex procedures of organ compatibility that said it could have taken him years to find the perfect donor.
    What I agree with is that the hospital services need to be more efficient in trying to contact a decease patient family and dealing with grieving families. Again stop the blame game, unless I am wrong neither you nor I are staff of this hospital nor witness what exactly happened. And let us give thanks that we have at the least one that is functioning (may not be the best) because if you look around there are worst of hospital in the Caribbean and in the world than the one we have. No need to go even far, St Barths doesn't even have a hospital but a clinic (and their economy is way better then ours) or even Guadeloupe with it's aging services.

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